Is the homeruns chase that important ?

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  • quietcool72
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    • Aug 2003
    • 995

    #31
    Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

    The HR chase is one of the few fan/media driven baseball sensations left. Plus, its a huge accomplishment. Taters off of big league pitching are few and far between for even seasoned, experienced players.

    I think it would also be a BIGGER thing were it not for it being Bonds. His credibility is destroyed, and he doesn't help himself by frequently acting like a jerk to everyone including his teammates.

    So if this was anybody but Bonds, it would be much bigger. But its still big. He's far from the ambassador to baseball that many would wish he was.

    Still, I think the single season HR record is always huge. A-Rod might make a play on that later this year, esp. after the April he just had.... wow.

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    • Stu
      All Star
      • Jun 2004
      • 7924

      #32
      Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

      I agree with Rob Neyer on this issue. It's just a number. I'll feel the same way about Bonds when he breaks the record as I do now, and I'll feel the same way about Aaron as I did before. I think you can probably guess what those feelings are.
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      • mvb34
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        • Jul 2002
        • 8138

        #33
        Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

        I'll be watching when Barry Breaks the record and I hope he plays long enough to reach 800 HRs
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        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #34
          Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

          My first post in this thread and here's my opinion:

          The HR record IS important. It's in the magical triple crown of baseball records (consecutive games streak and consecutive games hit streak) but I feel the greatness of the chase has been cheated by the man who's doing the chasing.

          Barry Bonds is the worst person you can think of to go out there and break Aaron's record. Let's put asside the steroids stuff (I personally think he did them) and look at the man himself. Bonds is unquestionably the greatest player of our generation but he's also the most surly, troublesome, un-media friendly ballplayer of the last 30 years IMO. If he would only make himself more accessible during his career and be more of a positive person he'd be loved more.

          You know why Sosa and McGwire escaped scrutiny for so long? Because one was always smiling and had a happy disposition and the other was very accessible to the press and fans while marketing himself as an All-American good guy. Bonds does none of this. He only lets a very small group of people see the good side to him and instead projects himself as a stubborn and arrogant bastard to the public.

          A lot of people are actually cheering AGAINST Bonds which is why folks at MLB HQ are praying that Bonds ties and breaks the record in San Fran because if he does that anywhere else there's a potential for polite applause and cheering then a chorus of boos that start out small at first then gets so loud and vociferous that it'll make Bonds and MLB look very bad.

          I'd be way more comfortable if it was a guy like A-Rod breaking the record then Bonds to be honest.
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          • roadman
            *ll St*r
            • Aug 2003
            • 26339

            #35
            Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

            Aaron's record stood for over 30 years. That's something he can be proud of. That's approximately how many years Ruth's record stood.

            Interesting, that A-Rod or Pujolos will cut that record in half. There is a difference playing in the dead ball era and pitchers era vs the home run era. I'll always think of Ruth and Aaron as the HR kings.

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            • billethius
              Rookie
              • Mar 2004
              • 24

              #36
              Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

              As the OP alluded to, I don't care as much because it's a record that'll be broken again in a few years. If Barry was closing in on a 56-game hit streak, I'd be all over it, but I just can't get excited for something that's not going to stand for all that long. It's the same thing with guys getting to 500 homers now. It's not such a big deal since so many are doing it.

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              • RoyalBoyle78
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                • May 2003
                • 23918

                #37
                Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

                he breaks it, then whatever, I'm just upset that the HR record is all people talk about, why don't we talk about my favorite players record that will be NEVER broken....Thats somthing that nobody ever talks about.
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                • Brandon13
                  All Star
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 8915

                  #38
                  Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

                  For the people that don't think this is a big deal just because it's going to be broken in a few years, you just never know. I think Arod is going to pass Bonds' eventual record, but you just never know. Ken Griffey Jr. still hasn't reached 600 homers yet and almost everyone thought he'd eventually be the all time home run king. If Bonds plays next year there is a decent chance that he gets to 800 home runs. I wouldn't consider Arod or Pujols anything close to sure things to reach that number.

                  I'll be watching when Bonds breaks the record. I can't turn away from the tv when the greatest record in American sports is about to be broken, regardless of how I feel about Bonds.

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                  • Stu
                    All Star
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 7924

                    #39
                    Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

                    The only way I'll be watching is if happens at Fenway when they're playing the Red Sox. We know that won't happen though since Bonds doesn't like to hit his milestone HR's away from home.
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                    • MassNole
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 18848

                      #40
                      Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

                      Why do I have the feeling that those hating on Bonds now were the same ones loving Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire 9 years ago. Whether you like him or not Bonds is about to break the biggest record the game has to offer and whether you like it or not he didn't break any rules of the game to do it. If you can't be excited for this you don't deserve to call yourself a baseball fan.

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                      • Stu
                        All Star
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 7924

                        #41
                        Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

                        Originally posted by MassNole
                        Why do I have the feeling that those hating on Bonds now were the same ones loving Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire 9 years ago. Whether you like him or not Bonds is about to break the biggest record the game has to offer and whether you like it or not he didn't break any rules of the game to do it. If you can't be excited for this you don't deserve to call yourself a baseball fan.
                        No, he just broke laws. Sosa and McGwire weren't publicly known cheaters at the time they were chasing the record.
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                        • cbgatorade0202
                          Why Not?
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 4041

                          #42
                          Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

                          Originally posted by camulos
                          No, he just broke laws. Sosa and McGwire weren't publicly known cheaters at the time they were chasing the record.
                          Yea that was the big difference. For some reason then most people had no idea about it, Truthfully I never rooted for Sosa to do anything and McGwire it was nice seeing him hit homeruns but a yearly thing don't matter no where as much as the All Time Record.
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                          • MassNole
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 18848

                            #43
                            Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

                            IIRC a reporter did question McGwire about one of his workout supplements (Androstenedione?), but because everyone was enthralled with him breaking Maris' record it was cast aside and made out not to be a big deal. Little did we know that was the tip of the iceberg. So it was out there, we just chose to ignore it.

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                            • Stu
                              All Star
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 7924

                              #44
                              Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

                              Originally posted by cbgatorade0202
                              Yea that was the big difference. For some reason then most people had no idea about it, Truthfully I never rooted for Sosa to do anything and McGwire it was nice seeing him hit homeruns but a yearly thing don't matter no where as much as the All Time Record.
                              I don't remember rooting for either of them. I was pretty skeptical of the whole thing since Maris's record stood for almost 40 years, then all of a sudden these guys were blowing it out of the water. I thought they were juicing the ball though, not juicing themselves.
                              Last edited by Stu; 05-10-2007, 08:13 AM.
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                              • SPTO
                                binging
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 68046

                                #45
                                Re: Is the homeruns chase that important ?

                                Regarding Sosa and McGwire, I was ambivalent about them. I didn't care one way or the other about either guy. I did wonder about Big Mac tho with the whole Andro deal but it wasn't exactly a huge story until after he broke the record.

                                Now even tho I was ambivalent and didn't cheer for either one it didn't mean I stayed away from watching them. I remember I was in a residential school that year and I was lucky enough to catch Mac hitting the HR on Fox. It's interesting how a large segment of mostly blind teens were all baseball fans
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