Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

[shugknight]

Cmon, all these demands he's asking.. I think its completely BULLSH*T! The fact that this pitcher doesn't even have to show up to spring training was enough for me. Then he gets to choose who he signs with...WHENEVER he wants. What the?? This has pissed away baseball for me for allowing this kind of treatment to be allowed on specific players.

Yeah he might be a future HOF, but does that give him the right to be treated better than any other player?

Then on his contract, one of his clauses is that he doesn't have to travel with the team for away games, or be at the clubhouse on days he's not pitching. What the??? Is this guy disabled or something that he can't make a simple trip on a CHARTED AIRLINE to a place where all he has to do is sit around and chew sunflower seeds while sleeping in first class hotels eating nothing but steaks and lobsters?

I'm sorry, but this is just too much. If I was on the Yanks, I wouldn't let this happen. Clemens has too much control over baseball.. whatever he says goes.. I hope he tanks this season and finally retires..

Worst part of all is that Glavine is thinking about doing the same thing next year. WTF??? Whats next? Bonds only gets tested for steroids during the off-season?

Anybody else with me on this?


PS.. Mods, I'm sorry for the language I used. I tried to tone it down a bit, so hopefully this wont get locked.

[Brandon13]

Re: Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

The Yankees had to agree to the contract. If you want to be mad at anyone be mad at the Yankees' front office, not Clemens.

[shugknight]

Re: Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

The Yanks agreed to the contract, but it was Clemens that came up with all these clauses. And when you're desperate, as the Yankees were for pitching, sometimes you just need to get it done.

Clemens is a baby. period. If he was a man, and a "legend" as some call him, he would live up to his duties like previous iron mans before him (Ripken, Ryan, etc) and actually be with the team no matter who or where they play. Its about the TEAM.. not about the ROCKET.

[clerks37]

Re: Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

I'm just glad he didn't come back to the red sox I would have not watched the rest of the season

why he gets all this makes me want to

[mjb2124]

Re: Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

I blame the Yankees more than I blame Clemens. If the Yankees don't agree to all those clauses (Houston did last year as well) then Clemens doesn't sign.

It's the nature of business. You don't go into a job asking for a little money or few perks.....you ask for the sky and hope to get it or negotiate down. If the company (ie: Yankees) is willing to accept all those clauses, then it's their fault for doing so.

[nkhera1]

Re: Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

The funny thing is he gets all of these perks on top of 4.5 million a MONTH.

[NYJets]

Re: Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

Yeah he might be a future HOF, but does that give him the right to be treated better than any other player?

If a team is willing to do it, than yes, it does.

[shugknight]

Re: Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

I blame the Yankees more than I blame Clemens. If the Yankees don't agree to all those clauses (Houston did last year as well) then Clemens doesn't sign.

It's the nature of business. You don't go into a job asking for a little money or few perks.....you ask for the sky and hope to get it or negotiate down. If the company (ie: Yankees) is willing to accept all those clauses, then it's their fault for doing so.

Yes I do blame part of the embarrassment to the Yankees, but cmon, this team basically had their 5th starter for their Single A team pitching for them. They had no choice. Even their top prospect pitcher, who they didn't want even coming up to the big leagues for another year or two, had to pitch for them, and then get injured. But you have to think about it like this...

Lets say Clemens talks to Boston, New York, and Houston. Tells them that if they would like for him to pitch for their team, they have to agree to a few stipulations..

a) get paid 4.5 million a month
b) doesn't have to travel to away games with the team
and
c) gets to stay at home on days he's not pitching

All 3 teams think among themselves, and each team thinks, "this guy is crazy for asking these ridiculous clauses, HOWEVER, we do need need a starting pitcher really bad."

Don't you think that if the Yanks declined to offer him this ridiculous contract, one of these others teams would? simply because of what Clemens brings to the table?

You also have to think about it as a strategic plan by the Yankees... By signing Clemens to this stupid contract, they've blocked their biggest rival, the Red Sox, from signing him. Which kinda kills 2 birds with 1 stone.

So you have to think about it like that.. If the Yankees declined to agree to all those clauses, don't you think some other team would?

So you can't really blame the team. You blame the person that came up with the clauses first. The team just had to suck it up and sign him.

[dkgojackets]

Re: Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

What surprises me most is that the Yankees have big-name, star players who are willing to put up with this ****.

[shugknight]

Re: Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

If a team is willing to do it, than yes, it does.

And thats why baseball is becoming less and less of a sport year by year. It started with Bud Selig, but everything going on with this sport is starting to become a joke. Steroids, Homeruns, stupid billion dollar contracts..

Do you ever see these special kind of treatments in the NFL or NBA? (don't watch hockey, so I can't say so for myself) The ONLY time you basically can't be with the team is if there is a family emergency or some sort of injury. Never because so and so is a future hall of famer.

Season starts in April, not freakin June.

[Brandon13]

Re: Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

And thats why baseball is becoming less and less of a sport year by year. It started with Bud Selig, but everything going on with this sport is starting to become a joke. Steroids, Homeruns, stupid billion dollar contracts..

Do you ever see these special kind of treatments in the NFL or NBA? (don't watch hockey, so I can't say so for myself) The ONLY time you basically can't be with the team is if there is a family emergency or some sort of injury. Never because so and so is a future hall of famer.

Season starts in April, not freakin June.

It's not like he was with the Yankees in April an refused to play until June. He doesn't think his body can withstand an entire season so that's why he doesn't pitch for the entire season. And a starting pitcher in baseball isn't really comparable with any position in any other sport. They only pitch once every five days, so it isn't really necessary for them to be there every day. That's the reason you don't see this in other sports.

[Knight165]

Re: Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

I agree with you shug.....
and it makes the Yankees making that "cheap a$$" bid for Dice-K even more of a mystery.
They knew they were going to need pitching.
Dice-K looked/looks like the real deal and they underwhelm everyone with the bid. Granted...the Sox blew everyone out of the water...but with the B.S. contract for Clemens(who I don't think is that good anymore) is on par with signing a young obviously talented pitcher.
Nuts.

M.K.
Knight165

[BaseballCtchr]

Re: Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

Say what you want, call him a baby I dont care. I need him to come through for my fantasy team. If he can give me a great rest of the year instead of good year then I will take it. Clemens knows his body and thinks he cant make it the whole season, so he does what he wants. If its alright with him and the Yanks then it is alright with me.

[Stu]

Re: Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

The thing that makes me laugh about Clemens is how he says he wants to help teams win a WS, yet skips 2 months of the season. Gee Roger, don't yah think Houston could've used you in April and May when they finished 1.5 back in their division last year? He's the ultimate hypocrite.

[shugknight]

Re: Does anybody else think Clemens is a f'n baby?

It's not like he was with the Yankees in April an refused to play until June. He doesn't think his body can withstand an entire season so that's why he doesn't pitch for the entire season. And a starting pitcher in baseball isn't really comparable with any position in any other sport. They only pitch once every five days, so it isn't really necessary for them to be there every day. That's the reason you don't see this in other sports.

So is it really that hard to get paid 4.5 million a month, while only pitching 4-5 times during that month, to sit with your team on your off day and actually BE A TEAM? Will the plane ride somehow cause an injury to his pitching arm on his way to Chicago or LA? Will he get a blister on his *** while he sits on the bench on his off day? Would any of this result in him going to the DL? NO.

So why is it so hard for him to be with his team and SUPPORT his team during their road games (when most teams needs the most encouragement)

I can understand if he only agrees to pitch 2-3 months of the season because of the wear and tear of his body, but to not travel with the team? THATS COMPLETE BS. If you want to be a leader, you should show leadership. And you don't show leadership by leaving your team behind while you go and do your own business while they're trying to play their asses off to make it to the playoffs.

I hope that New York has a 2nd half drought and causes the Yanks to miss the playoffs. I think that would be the perfect definition of KARMA.

BTW, Brandon13.. you're there to support the team. not because you're pitching that day.

I hate to say this.. but its the truth..

I respect Barry Bonds more than I respect Roger Clemens. At least Bonds is out there with his team no matter what he may go through.