Do you realize how OVER the season is?

[ehh]

Re: Do you realize how OVER the season is?

3rd he said "mine", not "HA!". Look at the tape and you decide.


--> You call for the ball to avoid injury. ARod knows this since he is a 3rd basemen and he knows that the middle always has priority. Arod yelling "Mine" or "Ha" was designed to use make Clark belive that he was being called off. All Clark did was try to get out of the way to avoid injury. If Arod gets hurt then he gets what he deserved.

1) He definitely did not say "mine". You can see it clear as day on the tape it's not even close to "mine".

2) No veteran player would ever fall for that move. I also played baseball when I was younger and since when do you only yell, "Mine!" or something similar only once? Let alone at the very last second especially on a routine pop-up. Of all the baseball I played it was always repeated several times. "I got it, I got it, I got it, I got it!" Heck, just look at any replay these days on a play that involves that situation and you will see the CF/SS/2B calling for the ball several times. Cheap shot move by A-Rod? If you think so that's fine. It was also a bonehead play by Clark as well.

3) It's not like the ball was hit into a gray area, it was absolutely the third baseman's ball. No SS would call a 3B off on a ball hit there. The SS would not call the 3B off on a can-of-corn pop up two seconds before it was going to be caught by the 3B. If theoretically he was going to call off the 3B, Clark would have heard a warning much earlier.

4) Several players from past eras (non-Yankees) said this type of thing happened all the time when they played.

It was probably the biggest overreaction by a team I have ever seen. Was it called for? Definitely not. But to get your panties in a bunch for three months and throw at A-Rod twice is a little absurd.

[aa2ba]

Re: Do you realize how OVER the season is?

1) He definitely did not say "mine". You can see it clear as day on the tape it's not even close to "mine".

2) No veteran player would ever fall for that move. I also played baseball when I was younger and since when do you only yell, "Mine!" or something similar only once? Let alone at the very last second especially on a routine pop-up. Of all the baseball I played it was always repeated several times. "I got it, I got it, I got it, I got it!" Heck, just look at any replay these days on a play that involves that situation and you will see the CF/SS/2B calling for the ball several times. Cheap shot move by A-Rod? If you think so that's fine. It was also a bonehead play by Clark as well.

3) It's not like the ball was hit into a gray area, it was absolutely the third baseman's ball. No SS would call a 3B off on a ball hit there. The SS would not call the 3B off on a can-of-corn pop up two seconds before it was going to be caught by the 3B. If theoretically he was going to call off the 3B, Clark would have heard a warning much earlier.

4) Several players from past eras (non-Yankees) said this type of thing happened all the time when they played.

It was probably the biggest overreaction by a team I have ever seen. Was it called for? Definitely not. But to get your panties in a bunch for three months and throw at A-Rod twice is a little absurd.

Well I agree to throw twice was somewhat uncalled for, and that Clark made a bone head move. Your right a vet does make that play, but Clark is not vet. He was in his first week in the majors and does not know his teammates. He was a scared young player in the middle of (at the time) a close game, and lost his nerve.

Also people, in this new generation of sports, do call mine now on flyballs. I have heard it in my beer league softball games, and at my little cousins highschool games. But I dont recall hearing it at the major league level.

But I have been searching for the video on youtube and cant find it. I have seen that video on Jays telcasts many times and I can swear it looks like hes saying mine. Mine or Ha it does not excuse ARod from getting thrown at...twice might be a bit excessive, but the guy walked around like superman on Monday after he got thrown at (and missed), I can see why the Jays wanted to throw at him again.

I am trying real hard not to be a homer on this one, so I appologize if we disagree on this one.

[ehh]

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Well I agree to throw twice is uncalled for, and that Clark made a bone head move. But ARod knows better. Clark was playing in his first week in the majors and does not know his teammates. He was a scared young player in the middle of (at the time) a close game, and lost his nerve

But I have been searching for the video on youtube and cant find it. I have seen that video on Jays telcasts many times and I can swear it looks like hes saying mine. Mine or Ha it does not excuse ARod from getting thrown at...twice might be a bit excessive, but the guy walked around like superman on Monday after he got thrown at (and missed), I can see why the Jays wanted to throw at him again.

I am trying real hard not to be a homer on this one, so I appologize if we disagree on this one.

YES shows it a ton and from every angle I've seen it's clearly "HA!" or "AH!". If you see "Mine!" then that's your call, nothing I can disagree with there.

The thing we'll never know is whether or not A-Rod did it to Clark on purpose because he knew it was Clark's first time up in the bigs. I highly doubt he'd try to pull that stunt on a vet.

From there things got carried away. I think what really set Pena off was Towers complete disrespect for A-Rod after he hit him by telling him to go down to first. That is really crossing the line, IMO. Also, someone in Towers' position shouldn't be criticizing anybody in the Majors. He's not exactly an All-Star or an accomplished player and there's no way he knows the entire story as to why Pena left KC.

[aa2ba]

Re: Do you realize how OVER the season is?

YES shows it a ton and from every angle I've seen it's clearly "HA!" or "AH!". If you see "Mine!" then that's your call, nothing I can disagree with there.

The thing we'll never know is whether or not A-Rod did it to Clark on purpose because he knew it was Clark's first time up in the bigs. I highly doubt he'd try to pull that stunt on a vet.

From there things got carried away. I think what really set Pena off was Towers complete disrespect for A-Rod after he hit him by telling him to go down to first. That is really crossing the line, IMO. Also, someone in Towers' position shouldn't be criticizing anybody in the Majors. He's not exactly an All-Star or an accomplished player and there's no way he knows the entire story as to why Pena left KC.

Agreed, from a Jaysfan persepctive I like that Towers showed heart in stepping to ARod (who still had the bat in his hands ) and told him where to go. And then not taking Tony's sh*t afterwards

But I have seen him in interviews (besides this one) and he is a bit of a dink. He seems overconfident at times, and has no real merit at this level to be spouting off the way he did about Tony Pena.

[55]

Re: Do you realize how OVER the season is?

All he said was "Ha!" running by John McDonald who sucks anyway and shouldn't even talk.

[NYJets]

Re: Do you realize how OVER the season is?

If the Yankees win the wildcard, it's still a bad season. They haven't not won the division since 1997.

So?

I couldn't care less how they get in, the goal's to get in. There's nothing special about them winning the East anymore.

Gees with such a difficult schedule after the all-star break, it's a real shocker why they have been so good...

Yankees are going to play some tough teams comming up that will really show whether they are contenders or not.

While I certainly agree that this next stretch is the key part of the season, the Yankees don't have to prove anything. This is a team of established players for the most part, they aren't playing over there heads. A-Rod, Jeter, Matsui, Abreu, Clemens, Wang, Posada, etc. don't have to show they can do it against good competition. Yankees are already contenders, they don't have to show it.

[NYJets]

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But it was just amazing over the past 2 days his reaction to being thrown at. Yeah get mad, but the way his demenor was; as if he is the victim of crimes that are unjust.

What? 2 days ago he got thrown behind, and he just stepped right back in the box and didn't react at all.

Should have been over after that, you don't get try after try to retaliate without anything happening.

[djep]

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Since the Allstar break they have played...

TB (4-game series)
TOR (4 -game series)
TB (4- game series)
KC (4-game series)
BAL (4-game series)
CHW (3-game series)
KC (3-game series)
TOR (3-game series)

Gees with such a difficult schedule after the all-star break, it's a real shocker why they have been so good...

Yankees are going to play some tough teams comming up that will really show whether they are contenders or not.

Didn't KC take 2 out of 3 in Fenway? The Sox have played about .500 ball for the past 2 months. I'm sure they weren't playing contenders every single day for those 2 months while the Yanks have played .660 ball during that stretch.

The Yanks are healthier and stronger than they have been at any point this season. The fact that they're in the hunt for the WC and possibly the division with the mix they have going now, I'd take my chances.

[X*Cell]

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Since the Allstar break they have played...

TB (4-game series)
TOR (4 -game series)
TB (4- game series)
KC (4-game series)
BAL (4-game series)
CHW (3-game series)
KC (3-game series)
TOR (3-game series)

Gees with such a difficult schedule after the all-star break, it's a real shocker why they have been so good...

Yankees are going to play some tough teams comming up that will really show whether they are contenders or not.

During that stretch...

we have raised our AVG from .280 to .292...
we raised our OBP from .356 to .367
we raised our SLUG from .439 to .465

and we have beaten Roy Halladay, Gil Meche twice, James Shields twice.

Our offense just needed a jumpstart, but you can't deny what our offense could do at any moment this season.

During that stretch we had five 10+ run games... we STILL have 16 on the season, which is good for 2nd behind the Detroit Tigers' 17.

The Yankees also lead the MLB in games in which a team scores 7+ runs with 48 different times. The Yanks have won 44 of them. The Tigers have scored 7+ 39 times, and have won 36 of them.

Our offense KILLS... this stretch may have proven to give us a boost, but we are still a force to reckon with that Anaheim, Boston, or any other team should be very afraid of.

[Spectre]

Re: Do you realize how OVER the season is?

Oh goodness, posts like these ask for trouble

[55]

Re: Do you realize how OVER the season is?

Yeah, the Yanks really played like a contender tonight.

[ILLCHILL]

Re: Do you realize how OVER the season is?

Yea the Yankees might be on a roll, but you can its like they saw this thread and wanted to purposely discredit it. Even if the win every game from here on out, it isn't because of yesterday.

[aa2ba]

Re: Do you realize how OVER the season is?

What? 2 days ago he got thrown behind, and he just stepped right back in the box and didn't react at all.

Should have been over after that, you don't get try after try to retaliate without anything happening.

Well he did react... he looked out at Litch and yelled "hey", then later in the game proceded to try to take out John McDonald on a double play.

Some might say the slide was intent to injur, and some might say the slide was just good hardnosed baseball.

My view on that slide; it was hardnoesed baseball with ill intention...and I believe there is a rule that if you are sliding of the basepath some part of your body (ie your hand or foot) has to touch the base, or you should be sliding right over the base. ARod on that slide did neither. After the double play was complete and his goal of putting Mcdonald on his head failed he took a swipe at the dirt in frustration. Or am I wrong on this?

[SPTO]

Re: Do you realize how OVER the season is?

I know it means nothing but I couldn't help but smile after tonight's game

[NYJets]

Re: Do you realize how OVER the season is?

Well he did react... he looked out at Litch and yelled "hey", then later in the game proceded to try to take out John McDonald on a double play.

Some might say the slide was intent to injur, and some might say the slide was just good hardnosed baseball.

My view on that slide; it was hardnoesed baseball with ill intention...and I believe there is a rule that if you are sliding of the basepath some part of your body (ie your hand or foot) has to touch the base, or you should be sliding right over the base. ARod on that slide did neither. After the double play was complete and his goal of putting Mcdonald on his head failed he took a swipe at the dirt in frustration. Or am I wrong on this?

I don't think either of those things are rules, and if they are they are never enforced.

That was just a good hard slide, and if he didn't touch the base he was very close to it.

He was certainly frustrated afterwards that he didn't get there in time to break it up, and I'm sure part of the play was he was unhappy about being thrown at, so your right, he wasn't completely okay with being thrown at, but I don't think you can say he overreacted either.

Whether people feel that A-Rod's "ha" or "mine" play was dirty or not, in A-Rod's mind it wasn't or else he wouldn't have done it, so while I'm sure he wasn't shocked at being thrown at, I doubt he feels he deserves it.