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  • ac11367
    I love meaty chics
    • Mar 2005
    • 853

    #16
    Re: Johan Santana may waive no-trade clause

    Originally posted by Picci
    ...offer Reyes for Santana.
    Yes, but I think Twins would probably want a pitching prospect to be included. Out goes Pelfrey.

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    • nyisles16
      All Star
      • Apr 2003
      • 8317

      #17
      Re: Johan Santana may waive no-trade clause

      Originally posted by ac11367
      Yes, but I think Twins would probably want a pitching prospect to be included. Out goes Pelfrey.
      I've heard all sorts of odd things - pontentially... heck, for the right guy, you may see Beltran go too

      funny thing as a side note... the "missed pitcher" Zito may get traded too (heard Seattle)

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      • bergie56
        T*rg*t F**ld
        • Mar 2004
        • 3984

        #18
        Re: Johan Santana may waive no-trade clause

        Originally posted by Picci
        I'm telling ya, the only way to throw a bone to the NY fans for the debacle is to present them with a major change. If AROD opts out, sign him then offer Reyes for Santana. If ARod doesn't opt out then forget it.
        Reyes alone wouldn't be enough. We are going to demand an established MLB player and two prospects. I am guessing that we will demand an established bat and a pitching prospect and a power hitting 3B or LF prospect. I don't really think that a pitching prospect is too important though, since I think we have decent options already. I think that Garza has the stuff to be an ace, so if we do demand pitching prospects, I hope they aren't the focus of the trade.

        I kind of doubt that the new GM will have the balls to pull this trade off . If he does though, I hope that one team gets involved with the sole focus of driving the price up for another team. I would assume that any trade will be contingent on Johan signing a contract extension as no team should be stupid enough to mortgage their future for a rental player. Johan is good but he isn't that good where he guarantees a championship.
        Last edited by bergie56; 10-03-2007, 11:26 AM.

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        • dkgojackets
          Banned
          • Mar 2005
          • 13816

          #19
          Re: Johan Santana may waive no-trade clause

          I'm sure Florida will put in a bid.




















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          • SPTO
            binging
            • Feb 2003
            • 68046

            #20
            Re: Johan Santana may waive no-trade clause

            I wonder, if Santana goes to any of the New York teams if he'll blow up? I dunno, seems he has a desire to win and all and is a tremendous pitcher but NY does things to players like no other city in the majors.

            Anyways I hope he's traded to the NL
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            • bergie56
              T*rg*t F**ld
              • Mar 2004
              • 3984

              #21
              Re: Johan Santana may waive no-trade clause

              Originally posted by SPTO
              I wonder, if Santana goes to any of the New York teams if he'll blow up? I dunno, seems he has a desire to win and all and is a tremendous pitcher but NY does things to players like no other city in the majors.

              Anyways I hope he's traded to the NL
              I hope he goes to the NL as well. I am not sure if he would last in NY or not. He is a very easy go lucky guy and from all accounts doesn't take himself too seriously, which leads me to believe he would be fine. However, as you said NY does mysterious things to a player.

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              • BatsareBugs
                LVP
                • Feb 2003
                • 12553

                #22
                Re: Johan Santana may waive no-trade clause

                Originally posted by dkgojackets
                I'm sure Florida will put in a bid.




















                Hey, they could probably get more than $25,000 dollars this time. :wink:

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                • BatsareBugs
                  LVP
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 12553

                  #23
                  Re: Johan Santana may waive no-trade clause

                  Originally posted by bergie56
                  I hope he goes to the NL as well. I am not sure if he would last in NY or not. He is a very easy go lucky guy and from all accounts doesn't take himself too seriously, which leads me to believe he would be fine. However, as you said NY does mysterious things to a player.
                  NL West please not with the LA Dodgers.

                  He'd have an ERA below 2 in the NL West with our ballparks.

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                  • dkgojackets
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 13816

                    #24
                    Re: Johan Santana may waive no-trade clause

                    Originally posted by Rag3vsW0rld
                    Hey, they could probably get more than $25,000 dollars this time. :wink:
                    Florida didn't even get $25K. They traded Santana AND cash for Jard Camp.

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                    • GForce22
                      Rookie
                      • May 2003
                      • 447

                      #25
                      Re: Johan Santana may waive no-trade clause

                      Originally posted by Pierzynski 12
                      If they do indeed trade him. Please, trade him to the NL!
                      I'm sorry, but keeping Hunter is more important than keeping Santana? Are they f'in crazy?

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                      • GForce22
                        Rookie
                        • May 2003
                        • 447

                        #26
                        Re: Johan Santana may waive no-trade clause

                        Originally posted by bergie56
                        Reyes alone wouldn't be enough. We are going to demand an established MLB player and two prospects. I am guessing that we will demand an established bat and a pitching prospect and a power hitting 3B or LF prospect. I don't really think that a pitching prospect is too important though, since I think we have decent options already. I think that Garza has the stuff to be an ace, so if we do demand pitching prospects, I hope they aren't the focus of the trade.

                        I kind of doubt that the new GM will have the balls to pull this trade off . If he does though, I hope that one team gets involved with the sole focus of driving the price up for another team. I would assume that any trade will be contingent on Johan signing a contract extension as no team should be stupid enough to mortgage their future for a rental player. Johan is good but he isn't that good where he guarantees a championship.
                        If you want that much you'll need to give a negotiating window for an extension. Nobody's giving that for a guy who's a free agent as season's end.

                        GH
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                        • bergie56
                          T*rg*t F**ld
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 3984

                          #27
                          Re: Johan Santana may waive no-trade clause

                          Originally posted by GForce22
                          I'm sorry, but keeping Hunter is more important than keeping Santana? Are they f'in crazy?

                          GH
                          The Hunter situation is more immediate than the Santana situation, but I don't think the Twins think that he is more important. I have a feeling neither will be with the team in 2 years.

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                          • Pierzynski 12
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 660

                            #28
                            Re: Johan Santana may waive no-trade clause

                            Hunter, Santana and Nathan.

                            Two of them guys will be gone most likely. Maybe, all three.

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