Andruw Jones to Dodgers

[p_rushing]

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As a long time Braves fan:

I HATE that he went to the Dodgers. The Dodgers have always given the Braves trouble no matter how good / bad their team (and vice versa for ours) was. If he gets anywhere near his old form the Dodgers will be a true pain in the *** for the Braves.

I wish he went to the Mets. That way the Braves would get to face him more. He cannot hit anymore. All you have to do is throw some breaking balls outside, comeback inside with a high fastball inside, then go back outside. Down goes Andruw on a K.

Dodgers got screwed. I don't think I would pay 5 million for him.

[CMH]

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Batting average doesn't tell the whole story.

Jones still drove in 90+ runs and hit close to 30 Hrs all while doing lines with Mendoza at the plate.

I don't care if a guy bats .260 if he can drive in my runners and score some runs AND play amazing defense in a very spacious centerfield.

[Brandon13]

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Batting average doesn't tell the whole story.

Jones still drove in 90+ runs and hit close to 30 Hrs all while doing lines with Mendoza at the plate.

I don't care if a guy bats .260 if he can drive in my runners and score some runs AND play amazing defense in a very spacious centerfield.

He only batted .231 with RISP and .169 with RISP and two out. He had the RBIs because there were always men on base for him, not because he was hitting well in those situations.

[CMH]

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He only batted .231 with RISP and .169 with RISP and two out. He had the RBIs because there were always men on base for him, not because he was hitting well in those situations.

I know that. My point was that he still drove in 90+ RBI despite hitting so poorly.

If a player can do that then he's fully capable of driving in 120 runs like he did the two years prior to last season.

[nkhera1]

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I know that. My point was that he still drove in 90+ RBI despite hitting so poorly.

If a player can do that then he's fully capable of driving in 120 runs like he did the two years prior to last season.

But who's to say he is ever going to be fully capable again? Plus there is the problem of his expanding waistline and how it will affect his defense. 18 million per year is a lot of money. Thats up there with Jeter and Ramirez.

[SPTO]

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I know that. My point was that he still drove in 90+ RBI despite hitting so poorly.

So I guess you ascribe to the school of Bobby Bonds/Dave Kingman. Guys with high power potential but crappy averages.

IIf a player can do that then he's fully capable of driving in 120 runs like he did the two years prior to last season.

Yes Andruw is still young, isn't he only 26-28 years old? He can snap out of that funk and put up some great numbers again I think it could happen if he takes what happened this offseason as a sign that you got to work hard for the money and not just live on reputation.

[Brandon13]

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Yes Andruw is still young, isn't he only 26-28 years old?

He's 30.

[SPTO]

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He's 30.

Thanks, 30 and with a 2 year contract. Well if he plays his cards right then he has one more big pay day opportunity in him.

[aukevin]

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I haven't decided how much I'm going to miss Andruw on the Braves. It's kinda sad that he won't be in centerfield next year. Best of luck to him in LA though.

[CMH]

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So I guess you ascribe to the school of Bobby Bonds/Dave Kingman. Guys with high power potential but crappy averages.

I don't prefer the guys at all. I'm all about OBP, yea you know me.

But, I also understand that it's hard to find a .300 hitter in the league. There aren't many. Andruw Jones has always been a .260 type guy. I think he had one year he hit .300.

I'll check...yea, 2000. And that wasn't even his best season.

The years he hit 51 homeruns/128 RBI, 41 HR/129 RBI, 34 HR/104 RBI he didn't hit above .263.

He's just a rare guy...sorta like a Bobby Bonds and Dave Kingman. Guys that can hit .260 and still provide offensive spark.

Would he be better if he could hit .300? Of course. Man, if he could do that then he'd be getting Alex Rodriguez money. But alas, that's not the type of player he is.

18 million is a bit much for him but at two years it isn't going to hurt.

Hey, in those same years that he didn't hit above .263 he didn't have an OBP lower than .347 and two of the years he was at .363 and .366. He has a career .342 OBP for a guy that hits .263. That's impressive.

[asrabbit91]

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This was idiotic at best. Andrew Jones doesn't hit for average, and his d is overated, he does stuff not needed. He can hit the hr ball fine, but still your better off just using Luis Gonzalez and Pierre and Ethier and the lineup, and still have that money.

[SPTO]

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Well, even in a down year Jones hit more HRs then any Dodger last year. At least he'll bring a power threat to the team. Look at it this way, it could be a bargain if he returns to pre 2007 form.

[asrabbit91]

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Another thing not in here that is a key stat, is he sucks with runners in scoring postition, strikes out too much, and can't get the runner in from 3rd with less than 2 outs.

[TDO]

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Andruw Jones in summary:

defense is good but nowhere where he used to be don't expect amazing defense (he also had Francouer in right who helped hide his declining defense

very streaky hitter, yes he drove in a lot but that was with an offense that provided very many opportunities (C Jones, Texiera, Francouer, McCann, Renteria) needs that support to drive 90+.

he's honestly on the decline, i dont like he left atlanta but am glad they didnt overpay to keep a guy who at 30 plays like a 35 year old. definitely will miss him and root for him when not playing the braves.

[RoyalBoyle78]

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I know that. My point was that he still drove in 90+ RBI despite hitting so poorly.

If a player can do that then he's fully capable of driving in 120 runs like he did the two years prior to last season.

Andrew Jones is a good player no doubt, he hits a lot of HR's but his batting average is just terrible, I never knew hoe bad it was.