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  • Lewshus
    Bleeding Cubbie Blue
    • Oct 2002
    • 263

    #1

    Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

    But its gonna cost them.


    Thats way too much to give up for Brian Roberts. And where does this leave DeRosa?
  • jake44np
    Post Like a Champion!
    • Jul 2002
    • 9563

    #2
    Re: Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

    Too much to give up for a steriod using second basemen.
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    • therizing02
      MVP
      • Apr 2003
      • 4176

      #3
      Re: Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

      Originally posted by Lewshus
      But its gonna cost them.


      Thats way too much to give up for Brian Roberts. And where does this leave DeRosa?
      It leaves DeRosa in his more comfortable role as a utility player. I've heard that the Cub brass thought DeRosa ran out of gas at the end of last year.

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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #4
        Re: Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

        This smells like a "win now with all kinds of veterans" Cubs move. I bet it'll backfire on 'em.
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        • Lewshus
          Bleeding Cubbie Blue
          • Oct 2002
          • 263

          #5
          Re: Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

          Originally posted by therizing02
          It leaves DeRosa in his more comfortable role as a utility player. I've heard that the Cub brass thought DeRosa ran out of gas at the end of last year.
          The only thing about that is DeRosa's swing is so touchy. And him playing the utility role we not get him into the groove he needs to get his swing right.

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          • ZM Punk
            We Spent Some Money!
            • Feb 2003
            • 6260

            #6
            Re: Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

            I think both teams will come out pretty even on this trade.

            Roberts is a very underrated player at second base. While the Cubs are just giving up Marshall and Gallagher ( both 4th or 5th starters at best) and Cedeno who is nothing more than a very good defensive utility player.

            The Cubs aren't getting raped in this deal by any means, its just hard giving up any pitching when the Cubs are so thin in that area. Especially a guy that is in your starting rotation.
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            • poster
              All Star
              • Nov 2003
              • 7506

              #7
              Re: Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

              We lose pitching depth, but gain a real lead off man which is hard to come by. I'll do that in a second. Cedeno is a AAAA player. Hits .350 in AAA and hits .220 once he gets to the show. He has also showed he is dumb. I like Gallagher's upside. Marshall is good, but not great.

              I love DeRosa and feel he is underrated. Hits well at home and on the road and also balances their lineup out with his .370 OBP. They cannot lose that from their lineup. It would be ideal if the Riot would move to the utility role, but DeRosa can't play SS every day. Either way they will have to do something out of the ordinary.

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              • Happy29
                All Star
                • Jan 2006
                • 5489

                #8
                Re: Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

                I hate to loose Marshall but te get Roberts and get rid of Cedeno lets do it. And DeRosa can play so many positions that he will get his swings. 1st, 2nd, 3rd Right and this will be a hell of a lineup.

                1 LF Soriano
                2 2b Roberts
                3 1b Lee
                4 3b Ramirez
                5 RF Fukudome
                6 SS Theriot
                7 CF Pie
                8 C Soto

                Pitching Sp Zambrano, Sp Hill, Sp Lilly, Sp Marquis, 5th TBD

                7th 8th 9th inning Marmol, Howry, Wood
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                • ZM Punk
                  We Spent Some Money!
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 6260

                  #9
                  Re: Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

                  Originally posted by poster
                  We lose pitching depth, but gain a real lead off man which is hard to come by. I'll do that in a second. Cedeno is a AAAA player. Hits .350 in AAA and hits .220 once he gets to the show. He has also showed he is dumb. I like Gallagher's upside. Marshall is good, but not great.

                  I love DeRosa and feel he is underrated. Hits well at home and on the road and also balances their lineup out with his .370 OBP. They cannot lose that from their lineup. It would be ideal if the Riot would move to the utility role, but DeRosa can't play SS every day. Either way they will have to do something out of the ordinary.
                  I'm in the boat that we might as well win now and use whatever mid level prospects to land what we can. Our minor league system is a joke so I think we are fortunate that were able to round up enough mid level prospects to even pull of this trade.

                  We don't have a high level major league prospect in our system other than Vitters and he is a long way from being major league ready.
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                  • Lewshus
                    Bleeding Cubbie Blue
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 263

                    #10
                    Re: Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

                    Originally posted by bjowers29
                    I hate to loose Marshall but te get Roberts and get rid of Cedeno lets do it. And DeRosa can play so many positions that he will get his swings. 1st, 2nd, 3rd Right and this will be a hell of a lineup.

                    1 LF Soriano
                    2 2b Roberts
                    3 1b Lee
                    4 3b Ramirez
                    5 RF Fukudome
                    6 SS Theriot
                    7 CF Pie
                    8 C Soto

                    Pitching Sp Zambrano, Sp Hill, Sp Lilly, Sp Marquis, 5th TBD

                    7th 8th 9th inning Marmol, Howry, Wood
                    When the Cubs gets Roberts (pretty much said to be a done deal) Lou will drop Soriano to 3rd. This will be the projected lineup

                    Roberts
                    Theriot
                    Soriano
                    Ramirez
                    Fukupayme
                    Lee
                    Soto
                    Pie

                    Thats a pretty good looking lineup.

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                    • JBH3
                      Marvel's Finest
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 13506

                      #11
                      Re: Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

                      Originally posted by Lewshus
                      When the Cubs gets Roberts (pretty much said to be a done deal) Lou will drop Soriano to 3rd. This will be the projected lineup

                      Roberts
                      Theriot
                      Soriano
                      Ramirez
                      Fukupayme
                      Lee
                      Soto
                      Pie

                      Thats a pretty good looking lineup.
                      Fukupayme...LMAO

                      Nice lineup...Still not as good as this one though

                      Rollins
                      Victorino
                      Utley
                      Howard
                      Burrell
                      Jenkins/Werth
                      Dobbs/Helms
                      Ruiz
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                      • Lewshus
                        Bleeding Cubbie Blue
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 263

                        #12
                        Re: Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

                        Originally posted by JBH3
                        Fukupayme...LMAO

                        Nice lineup...Still not as good as this one though

                        Rollins
                        Victorino
                        Utley
                        Howard
                        Burrell
                        Jenkins/Werth
                        Dobbs/Helms
                        Ruiz
                        I agree the Phillies lineup is probably gonna put up some softball scores, but their pitching is suspect. Are they gonna keep Myers in the closer role, or is he gonna start.

                        Anyways, if I am the Cubs I toss in Pie and ask for Bedard as well.

                        Sean Marshall
                        Sean Gallagher
                        Ronny Cedeno
                        Felix Pie

                        for

                        Brian Roberts
                        Erik Bedard


                        Thats a trade I make all day if I'm both teams.

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                        • Motown
                          OS Brew Connoisseur
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 9169

                          #13
                          Re: Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

                          Originally posted by Lewshus
                          I agree the Phillies lineup is probably gonna put up some softball scores, but their pitching is suspect. Are they gonna keep Myers in the closer role, or is he gonna start.

                          Anyways, if I am the Cubs I toss in Pie and ask for Bedard as well.

                          Sean Marshall
                          Sean Gallagher
                          Ronny Cedeno
                          Felix Pie

                          for

                          Brian Roberts
                          Erik Bedard


                          Thats a trade I make all day if I'm both teams.
                          Why would Pie make a difference? the boy cannot hit a lick!
                          Cedeno please
                          Marshall a 4th starter at best
                          Gallagher?
                          no way in hell i would do this

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                          • JBH3
                            Marvel's Finest
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 13506

                            #14
                            Re: Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

                            [quote=Lewshus;2038045680]their pitching is suspect. Are they gonna keep Myers in the closer role, or is he gonna start.[quote]

                            Uhh...Myers is the #2 starter now... We traded for Brad Lidge a month or so ago, and he is our new closer. So are starting pitching got a little better.

                            Hamels
                            Myers
                            Moyer
                            Kendrick
                            Eaton/One of the Durbins/Mathieson?
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                            • poster
                              All Star
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 7506

                              #15
                              Re: Cubs poised to get Brian Roberts

                              Not sure if this is going to happen now. Word is that they want Hill and Pie or Tyler Colvin. I would tell them to get bent if true. Roberts isn't a top tier player, so they shouldn't expect the Cubs top talent.

                              I would move Pie if they could get a quality pitcher, but that isn't out there. Colvin is one of the few decent kids they have in the farm system, and they need Hill as their pitching is thin.

                              No need to get jobbed for a roid player, who they want to move anyway. It can be done for less if Baltimore really wants to do it. That being said, I won't hold my breath anymore on this deal.

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