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  • BunnyHardaway
    Banned
    • Nov 2004
    • 15195

    #31
    Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done

    I'm this close to becoming a Nationals fan right now. At least they know how to do things.

    What a joke.

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    • Coug00
      LOB
      • Jul 2002
      • 3476

      #32
      Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done

      Originally posted by JJLinn
      That last 5 for 1 deal is absolutely atrocious, I'd be pissed if they took that. Jones, Tillman, Sherrill, and scrubs. Fantastic.

      Anyway, apparently Angelos' reason for not being available is "legit", says people that have sources either with agents or within the organization on Orioles Hangout. All of them have been saying Tuesday from the get go, so I'm guessing Angelos being absent was planned.

      If it's that trash of a 5 for 1 deal though, I hope he nixes it. Mickolio? Are you ****ing serious?
      I wouldn't call Butler a scrub. His health is a small concern, but he grades out as a legit mid rotation lefty in 2-3 years. He's not far off from Tillman who is projected as a solid #2 starter. Mickolio is ready for the bigs now.

      And the latest I've heard is if the deal goes through its a 4 for 1, not 5 for 1. Either Butler or Mickolio, but not both. I'd guess Butler goes...why in the world would Baltimore trade for 2 arms in the bullpen?

      And I've made it known earlier in this thread, but I'd rather keep the 4 or 5 than get 2 years of Bedard. Do your magic Angelos!
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      • thaima1shu
        Robot
        • Feb 2004
        • 5598

        #33
        Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done

        I'm really torn between how to feel about this trade. Having Bedard for two years paired up with Felix is an amazing thought. If we can get an extension for Bedard RIGHT NOW then I'd say this is a great deal. However, if we're only looking at two years of Bedard, I think I'd rather keep Adam Jones and whoever else we would give up. Like I said earlier, I am so afraid that Jones is going to turn into Griffey.

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        • sportsdude
          Be Massive
          • Jul 2002
          • 5001

          #34
          Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done

          Originally posted by JJLinn
          I'm this close to becoming a Nationals fan right now. At least they know how to do things.

          What a joke.
          oh come on now. you don't know Bowden like us Reds fans do. It's only a matter of time before the Nationals are full of guys who hit a bunch of homers and play no defense. Oh yeah, almost forgot about all the pitchers who can't pitch, that's always fun to watch.

          Trust me, stay away from the Nats. Until Bowden's gone, they're going to suck.
          Lux y Veritas

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          • Coug00
            LOB
            • Jul 2002
            • 3476

            #35
            Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done

            Originally posted by thaima1shu
            I'm really torn between how to feel about this trade. Having Bedard for two years paired up with Felix is an amazing thought. If we can get an extension for Bedard RIGHT NOW then I'd say this is a great deal. However, if we're only looking at two years of Bedard, I think I'd rather keep Adam Jones and whoever else we would give up. Like I said earlier, I am so afraid that Jones is going to turn into Griffey.
            Exactly. If it were more than two years of Bedard I could accept the deal. If they don't get the extension they lose Bedard in two years and have no one in the system to replace him because Tillman and Butler are gone. The M's have 32 million/year coming off the books after this season. So they have the money to sign him.

            If the deal doesn't go through we've got Felix, Morrow, Silva, and possibly Aumont/Tillman/Butler as the rotation in 2010+.
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            • BunnyHardaway
              Banned
              • Nov 2004
              • 15195

              #36
              Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done

              Originally posted by sportsdude
              oh come on now. you don't know Bowden like us Reds fans do. It's only a matter of time before the Nationals are full of guys who hit a bunch of homers and play no defense. Oh yeah, almost forgot about all the pitchers who can't pitch, that's always fun to watch.

              Trust me, stay away from the Nats. Until Bowden's gone, they're going to suck.
              Other than botching the Soriano situation, he's done a great job. Their minor league system has gone from one of the worst in MLB to one of the best in a matter of 2 years.

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              • sportsdude
                Be Massive
                • Jul 2002
                • 5001

                #37
                Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done

                Originally posted by JJLinn
                Other than botching the Soriano situation, he's done a great job. Their minor league system has gone from one of the worst in MLB to one of the best in a matter of 2 years.
                well I wouldn't exactly call the Nats a great job. Sure there's farm talent but does that really matter if they never turn into good MLB players? Bowden has a history of having good prospects that either never pan out or turn into players like Austin Kearns.
                Lux y Veritas

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                • Seahawk76
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1394

                  #38
                  Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done

                  I'd be more in favor of this trade if Bedard signed an extension first. I don't really want to trade away the M's future for a guy who'll be gone after two years. It would also leave a huge hole in RF to go along with the lead-footed Raul Ibanez in LF. Ichiro may have to cover a hell of a lot of ground in the outfield this season.

                  I have very mixed feelings, but without the extension I think I'd rather see Angelos scuttle the deal.

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                  • Coug00
                    LOB
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3476

                    #39
                    Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done

                    Looks like its back on. From numerous sources (Buster Onley, KJR AM, etc.) the hang-up was a rule regarding physicals for Adam Jones and George Sherrill. It will probably be announced today or tomorrow.

                    This opens the door for Roberts to be sent to Chicago next.
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                    • thaima1shu
                      Robot
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 5598

                      #40
                      Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done

                      Please tell me Bedard will sign an extension

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                      • Coug00
                        LOB
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 3476

                        #41
                        Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done

                        Originally posted by thaima1shu
                        Please tell me Bedard will sign an extension
                        Dave Cameron has a really good post on the extension subject at USSM.

                        <a href="http://ussmariner.com/2008/01/31/an-extension-for-bedard/">Bedard Extension</a>
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                        • Coug00
                          LOB
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 3476

                          #42
                          Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done



                          A few different sites are saying this trade has suddenly turned into a 6 for 2. Word is that an official announcement is coming Monday.

                          The Mariners would send Jones, Tillman, Butler, Mikolio, Carlos Truinfel , and Jose Lopez for Erik Bedard and Brian Roberts.
                          Last edited by Coug00; 02-03-2008, 02:05 AM.
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                          • Sedihawk2K5
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 360

                            #43
                            Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done

                            Originally posted by Coug00


                            A few different sites are saying this trade has suddenly turned into a 6 for 2. Word is that an official announcement is coming Monday.

                            The Mariners would send Jones, Tillman, Butler, Mikolio, Carlos Truinfel , and Jose Lopez for Erik Bedard and Brian Roberts.
                            Coug00, who's really saying it's a 6-for-2? Other than Orioles Hangout, where else have you read that?

                            Man, I'm so DONE with this trade. Either get it done or say that it fell apart, but please, can we get some resolution??

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                            • RAZRr1275
                              All Star
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 9918

                              #44
                              Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done

                              It will be nice to see badard with the mariners.
                              My latest project - Madden 12 http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043231648

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                              • BunnyHardaway
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 15195

                                #45
                                Re: Bedard for Adam Jones finally done

                                Originally posted by Coug00


                                A few different sites are saying this trade has suddenly turned into a 6 for 2. Word is that an official announcement is coming Monday.

                                The Mariners would send Jones, Tillman, Butler, Mikolio, Carlos Truinfel , and Jose Lopez for Erik Bedard and Brian Roberts.
                                I would go crazy if that's what the deal is. That's an amazing return.

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