RogerClemensReport.com

[taylor34]

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Carbon dating? I'm not so sure DNA testing includes carbon dating. Even so, I don't see how it would apply.

And posters aren't saying it's more likely McNamee tainted the syringes. We're offering a potential (and plausible) defense.

For what it's worth I think Clemens did do steroids. However, I could careless what his wife did.

I could be wrong on this, but I think they can do carbon dating on the steroids, the pad, and blood to determine how old it is. Doesn't have anything to do with DNA at all. It would only apply when Clemens says that McNamee tainted the stuff later, which I'm sure he will do. Of course, this only applies if all that stuff actualy contains carbon, which I'm not sure of.

Taylor34

[SPTO]

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So apparently Roger's wife was injected with the stuff prior to an SI layout.

How nice....

[yvesdereuter]

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1. Im an American. In America you have to prove someone guilty. You are not automatically guilty because you are accused of something

2. It doesnt matter that he's a Longhorn, although i know a lot about the man. I actually know some of the same people. I know more about him than you do, im pretty sure.

3. I doubt they can get fingerprints off of those gauzes and needles from 7 or 8 years ago, much less DNA...but even if they do get legit DNA despite whatever conditions those items were in for so long, how does that prove that he used PED's? McNamee was a team trainer and injected all kinds of players with all kinds of stuff. What is to stop someone from adding traces testosterone or something later on? There is no chain of custody whatesoever. Im not saying that Clemens didnt use those for roids, but this "evidence" is worthless and doesnt prove crap. It is not evidence unless it is credible.

anyway, i can pretty much guarantee you that the prosecutors are not going to use that as evidence. No court across the country would use that as evidence...but I doubt McNamee's lawyers care if it is used as evidence, they probably know it wont. The purpose to McNamee's lawyers showing these pictures to the press and using the "evidence" word is to affect public opinion. It seems that worked with some suckers. Some people are buying it automatically. However, It's actually going to take some proof to prove that Clemens is a liar.

Petitte, a good friend of Clemens', has already admitted Mcnamee is telling the truth.

[dalnet22]

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So, what's the story? Do you guys really think Clemens did it?

[SPTO]

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So, what's the story? Do you guys really think Clemens did it?

Personally I think he did it but McNamee has screwed himself so Clemens is going to get off scott free at least from a legal perspective.

[ZB9]

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any of yall actually read the part of the Mitchell report that discusses Clemens? A large part of that section has been discredited.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3238965

[ZB9]

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Petitte, a good friend of Clemens', has already admitted Mcnamee is telling the truth.

Pettitte hasnt said anything about Clemens. Pettitte said he himself used HGH to recover from a serious injury that he had. Clemens never had a serious injury.

anyway, we will see what Pettitte says on capital hill

btw, you ever have a friend that did something that you didnt also do? Did you do everything that your friends did? Did your friends know of everything that you did?

gonna have to have a lot more than that to consider someone guilty.

[RoyalBoyle78]

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at this point, I'm so sick of hearing about Clemens right now, I wish it would just go away, he's guilty and thats that, he needs to just stfu, I'm tired of hearing it. Also living in NY doesn't make it better, because it's in the papers as headline news on TV every day....Please stop the madness.

[ZB9]

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he's guilty and thats that, he needs to just stfu

LMAO who made you judge and jury? That doesnt mean crap. In this country, you have to PROVE someone's guilt.

btw, it's amazing to me how many people put so much stock into anything and everything that rat says. McNamee is a rat. That isnt "keeping it real"

[Heelfan71]

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LMAO who made you judge and jury? That doesnt mean crap. In this country, you have to PROVE someone's guilt.

btw, it's amazing to me how many people put so much stock into anything and everything that rat says. McNamee is a rat. That isnt "keeping it real"

everything the so called rat has said was proven to be true so far. So I guess he just decided to throw Clemens name in there for kicks and giggles.

[yvesdereuter]

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Pettitte hasnt said anything about Clemens. Pettitte said he himself used HGH to recover from a serious injury that he had. Clemens never had a serious injury.

anyway, we will see what Pettitte says on capital hill

btw, you ever have a friend that did something that you didnt also do? Did you do everything that your friends did? Did your friends know of everything that you did?

gonna have to have a lot more than that to consider someone guilty.

Was that supposed to be some sort of rebuttal? I was actually pointing out that Petitte affirmed Mcnamee is telling the truth. BTW, we absolutely do not need more to consider Clemens guilty. We're not in a court room. Give it up.

[ZB9]

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everything the so called rat has said was proven to be true so far. So I guess he just decided to throw Clemens name in there for kicks and giggles.

have you actually read the Mitchell report? One of the key statements by McNamee in the report is probably BS
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3238965

it has also come out recently that McNamee lied to investigators and threw people under the bus in a rape case against him some years ago. I imagine Clemens would be better off now if they hadnt dropped that case against McNamee back then. The biggest mistake Clemens made was obviously associating with that rat snitch POS.

[yvesdereuter]

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LMAO who made you judge and jury? That doesnt mean crap. In this country, you have to PROVE someone's guilt.

btw, it's amazing to me how many people put so much stock into anything and everything that rat says. McNamee is a rat. That isnt "keeping it real"

Actually, since Clemens is suing Mcnamee, the burden is on Clemens to prove Mcnamee is lying. In an internet forum, however, people have the latitude to go by what makes the most sense. No one is tethered to "beyond a reasonable doubt" or even "preponderence of the evidence."

[ZB9]

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Was that supposed to be some sort of rebuttal? I was actually pointing out that Petitte affirmed Mcnamee is telling the truth. BTW, we absolutely do not need more to consider Clemens guilty. We're not in a court room. Give it up.

how much media attention do you think the Mitchell report would have recieved if Pettitte was the biggest name on it? (btw, McNamee originally stated that Clemens did not use. He changed his story later).

all im saying is that proof is necessary to prove someone guilty and so far they havent proven ****. They are going to have to do better than guilt by association, at least they should have to.

anyway, it will be interesting to see what Pettitte says on capital hill (if he does in fact testify at all), and/or what Pettitte said in his depositions.

[yvesdereuter]

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how much media attention do you think the Mitchell report would have recieved if Pettitte was the biggest name on it? (btw, McNamee originally stated that Clemens did not use. He changed his story later).

I dont really care how much attention it would have received. This is an angle youre working that I couldnt care less about.

all im saying is that proof is necessary to prove someone guilty and so far they havent proven ****. They are going to have to do better than guilt by association, at least they should have to.

What you are failing to realize is that people arbitrarily decide what proof is and what forms of proof should be given the most weight.

anyway, it will be interesting to see what Pettitte says on capital hill.

I agree. It will be interesting.