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  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

    #16
    Re: Should Joba Chamberlain be starting?

    No kidding, even Hankenstein agrees.
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    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #17
      Re: Should Joba Chamberlain be starting?

      Let Joba start every game.

      Seriously, the Yankees organization is pushing this kid way too hard. He may seem mature about it right now but at some point the pressure is going to get to him. Hell, he was loved by Yanee fans even before he first threw a pitch in the big leagues. He's never going to live up to the expectations of the fans unless he's a perennial 20 game winner which I don't really see.

      Let's hope he doesn't become the Yankees version of Doc Gooden.
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      • ehh
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2003
        • 28962

        #18
        Re: Should Joba Chamberlain be starting?

        Just my opinion but I think he'll be similar to AJ Burnett, hopefully without the injuries.


        And LOL @ ESPN for this entire ordeal. Hype the hell out of this start before hand and then put an insanely negative spin on his start (the photo of Joba on ESPN.com looking upset, saying how it was a "false start" and "short night of work", etc) even though it was fine outside of some control issues.

        He gave up one hit on a seeing-eye-single that was hit off the handle by Rolen. His control will settle down and the walks will decrease as his pitch count goes up.

        Overall I was pretty pleased with it for a first start.
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        • CMH
          Making you famous
          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #19
          Re: Should Joba Chamberlain be starting?

          I was confused last night.

          I rush home to try to watch him pitch and he wasn't even on the mound. Crazy.
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          • SPTO
            binging
            • Feb 2003
            • 68046

            #20
            Re: Should Joba Chamberlain be starting?

            Originally posted by ehh
            Just my opinion but I think he'll be similar to AJ Burnett, hopefully without the injuries.
            So you'd be happy with a career .500 pitcher who shows flashes of brilliance that fools everyone into thinking he'll finally break out but is still way below his expectations?

            You must have a very low standard.
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            • ehh
              Hall Of Fame
              • Mar 2003
              • 28962

              #21
              Re: Should Joba Chamberlain be starting?

              Originally posted by SPTO
              So you'd be happy with a career .500 pitcher who shows flashes of brilliance that fools everyone into thinking he'll finally break out but is still way below his expectations?

              You must have a very low standard.
              That's not my standard, just what I think he'll be. Wins are overrated in terms of valuing a pitcher, playing for the Yankees will get Joba more wins than playing for Florida & Toronto got Burnett.

              In all fairness I guess I should have said a better or more consistent version of AJ Burnett.
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              • NYJets
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 18637

                #22
                Re: Should Joba Chamberlain be starting?

                Originally posted by SPTO
                Let Joba start every game.

                Seriously, the Yankees organization is pushing this kid way too hard. He may seem mature about it right now but at some point the pressure is going to get to him. Hell, he was loved by Yanee fans even before he first threw a pitch in the big leagues. He's never going to live up to the expectations of the fans unless he's a perennial 20 game winner which I don't really see.

                Let's hope he doesn't become the Yankees version of Doc Gooden.

                Not that he's going to win 20 games every year because no one really does, but what do you see holding him back from being a front of the rotation pitcher?
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                • pinnacleguy2
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 422

                  #23
                  Re: Should Joba Chamberlain be starting?

                  Joba should definitely be a starter, it's just going to take some time for him to get the feeling back to being a starter and get out of the relief mentality.


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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #24
                    Re: Should Joba Chamberlain be starting?

                    Originally posted by NYJets
                    Not that he's going to win 20 games every year because no one really does, but what do you see holding him back from being a front of the rotation pitcher?
                    Part of it is mental. As i've already stated some NYY fans have this inflated notion of him as some stud who'll be the #1 guy for 10+ years. The other thing is pitching. As it stands now he's only a 2 pitch guy. If he's going to be a front of the rotation pitcher he's going to have to have a consistent 3rd pitch to rely on.

                    I also think he's too much of a thrower right now but that'll change as he gets older.
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                    • Sandman42
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 15186

                      #25
                      Re: Should Joba Chamberlain be starting?

                      Originally posted by SPTO
                      Part of it is mental. As i've already stated some NYY fans have this inflated notion of him as some stud who'll be the #1 guy for 10+ years. The other thing is pitching. As it stands now he's only a 2 pitch guy. If he's going to be a front of the rotation pitcher he's going to have to have a consistent 3rd pitch to rely on.

                      I also think he's too much of a thrower right now but that'll change as he gets older.
                      He has an an above average curveball and changeup. He just never used them out of the bullpen because he only needed 2 pitches. Throughout the minors though he's thrown a curve and change.
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                      • ehh
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 28962

                        #26
                        Re: Should Joba Chamberlain be starting?

                        Originally posted by Sandman42
                        He has an an above average curveball and changeup. He just never used them out of the bullpen because he only needed 2 pitches. Throughout the minors though he's thrown a curve and change.
                        It is kinda surprising that so many non-Yankee fans think Joba is a two-pitch pitcher.
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                        • ryanm1058123
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 3628

                          #27
                          Re: Should Joba Chamberlain be starting?

                          Not sure Joba is a 4 pitch pitcher yet, as his changeup has yet to come around, but he's definitly a 3 pitch pitcher at this moment as his curve is pretty nice and his changeup is improving as well.

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