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  • ezekiel55
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    • Nov 2003
    • 2156

    #46
    Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

    Originally posted by Cletus
    The only dirty incident I can remember was the Robert Fick, first base punch deal. IIRC, he played sparingly after that and was released. I've been a braves fan as long as i can remember, and even remember when they signed Jim Presley as their answer to 3rd base.
    I was gonna bring that up but didnt feel the need to because of the way that Bobby Cox and Schuerholz handled it...His punk a$$ was cut from the team within a week of that happening.

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    • SlimKibbles
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      • Apr 2004
      • 7276

      #47
      Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

      Originally posted by Cletus
      The only dirty incident I can remember was the Robert Fick, first base punch deal. IIRC, he played sparingly after that and was released. I've been a braves fan as long as i can remember, and even remember when they signed Jim Presley as their answer to 3rd base.
      That doesn't surprise me. Robert Fick has always seemed to be an *** wherever he's played. Remember that brawl in Chicago that he was in while playing for the Tigers?
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      • ZM Punk
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        • Feb 2003
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        #48
        Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

        The ball wouldn't have even hit him if he hadn't lunged into it. I hate that Soriano is out and all, but that wasn't the least bit intentional imo.
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        • yvesdereuter
          Banned
          • Jun 2007
          • 1688

          #49
          Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

          Originally posted by snepp
          Keep telling yourself that, there's always someone else to blame, another excuse to make.

          This is almost as amusing as your Romo bit.
          I could but Im choosing to tell the likes of you. And since reading comprehension isnt a strength apparently, Im extending the courtesy to some of you by reposting something quite relevant that many of you seem oblivious to. I dont know if you choose to ignore it or if you didnt understand it but in any case, Im here to help by posting it again. Enjoy each and all.

          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...0-post612.html

          Originally posted by TheMatrix31
          This might be the stupidest thread I have ever read in my time as a member of Operation Sports, and I've seen my fair share of stupid threads.
          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...0-post612.html

          Originally posted by LiquidCrash
          Well, that much is obvious. Who cares about winning when you can just throw at a Cubs player? It's obvious what those Braves thugs are up to.

          :wink:
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          Originally posted by crques
          Why yes, yes it would be the same Soriano that does that. I guess now when the Cubs lose in the playoffs this year, assuming they get there, it will be Atlanta's fault because they hurt Soriano back on June 11th and ruined the rest of the season. These are the same fans that banished a man from town for interfering with a foul ball that "cost them the world series," even though it happend it Game 6 of the NLCS and they lost Game 7 the following night with him nowhere to be found at Wrigley.
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          Originally posted by BaseballCtchr
          Hell next time we play I say throw at them again so we can earn the title of this thread. That's right the Braves dont care about getting into the playoffs they just want to make sure the Cubs dont make it in by ruining their season.

          I said it once I will say it again you guys from the NL Central are the most delusional fan base ever. You guys belong in the NBA forums. The only two groups that havent said anything off the wall so far are the Brewers and Astros fans. The Cubs were riding fine until this thread.
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          Originally posted by avrbas
          The bestest/worstest thread was the worst lol

          I'd like to see where all this dirty play (besides the 2 games claimed by OP) has been in the past. Bobby Cox doesn't have the patience for idiotic play like that, being under .500 and wanting to win the East.

          Don't Cub fans boo Soriano anyway with his defensive errors
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          Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
          Thanks for showing Cubs fans can be reasonable. I can understand someone being upset about how Soriano got hurt. But the opening post showed no rational, level-headed thought whatsoever. & it continued thruout.
          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...0-post612.html

          Originally posted by crques
          Thank you for your calm, reasonable, and rational post. I was beginning to think that there were no rational Cubs fans out there. The ones I know are very similar to the ones posting insane stuff on here about how dirty the Braves organization is. I've been a Braves fan for 25 years now and I've not seen anything to lead me to believe that this organization is "dirty" or ever has been. I've seen nothing but class from these guys for years, especially Smoltz, Glavine, and Jones, and Cox is one of the most respected managers in the game.
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          Originally posted by dkgojackets
          lol at all this
          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...0-post612.html

          Originally posted by crques
          .......and to think, this entire thread was started because a player was hit with a pitch, which happens daily. LOL
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          Originally posted by zekey55
          I think you're overreacting yves, I was at the game as well and in my opinion it wasnt intentional. Sh*t happens, it's baseball.

          As for calling the Braves a dirty team I disagree. What about the 2003 NLDS where Kerry Wood had a very similar pitch that he threw to Sheffield which broke a bone in his hand taking him out of the series we eventually won...No one called Kerry or the Cubs dirty then.
          Like I said at the top, you might have a point if Wood had gone headhunting on SHeffield before that. But he didnt, so basically the point youre making is really a red herring.

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          • Kohlstar20
            MVP
            • Feb 2005
            • 1034

            #50
            Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

            Give it a rest already. Your the only Cubs fan on these forums making an issue out of nothing. Other Cub fans have even said it wasn't intentional so drop it. They didn't throw at Soriano on purpose, the Braves are one of the cleanest and most respected organizations in baseball, and your just another Cubs fan making excuses. PERIOD

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            • WazzuRC
              Go Cougs!
              • Dec 2002
              • 5617

              #51
              Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

              Dude, nobody cares.

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              • NYJets
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 18637

                #52
                Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

                Originally posted by BaseballCtchr
                You guys belong in the NBA forums. The only two groups that havent said anything off the wall so far are the Brewers and Astros fans. The Cubs were riding fine until this thread.
                LOL, just be glad you registered in november of 2003 and weren't here for the playoffs that year. Cubs fans were crazy at that time and then they kind of disappeared.
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                • CoRruPt-
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 1279

                  #53
                  Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

                  Seriously, do you even have a real argument other than trying to link us to your team thread, which probably reeks of this type of homerism?

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                  • yvesdereuter
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1688

                    #54
                    Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

                    Originally posted by CoRruPt-
                    Seriously, do you even have a real argument other than trying to link us to your team thread, which probably reeks of this type of homerism?
                    Wow, some of you really ride the short bus. As I said before theres a history. The Braves did this last year as well. Going with the conservative estimate, lets say the Cubs play the Braves 7 games a season. Thats 4.3% of their total games. Now, pay close attention. Last year Soriano was hit by a pitch 4 times. 25% of that comes from 4% of their games. Put another way, thats once every 7 gamse against the Braves but once every 52 gamse against everyone else. This year Soriano has been hit twice in 52 games. One of those coming in their 3 gamse vs the Braves and once against everyone else in the other 44 games.

                    The Braves are an extremely small portion of our games but they account for an enormous percentage of Sorianos HBPs.

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                    • yvesdereuter
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1688

                      #55
                      Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

                      Originally posted by Kohlstar20
                      Give it a rest already. Your the only Cubs fan on these forums making an issue out of nothing. Other Cub fans have even said it wasn't intentional so drop it. They didn't throw at Soriano on purpose, the Braves are one of the cleanest and most respected organizations in baseball, and your just another Cubs fan making excuses. PERIOD

                      Yeah, and thats because theres this BS protocol here that some feel compelled to follow. The stats back me up. If the other Cubs fans want to acquiesce, they can. Im not really seeking approval.

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                      • Jodaddy
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 247

                        #56
                        Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

                        Originally posted by yvesdereuter
                        Yeah, and thats because theres this BS protocol here that some feel compelled to follow.
                        This is true.

                        But on topic, you do have stats and examples to back up what you've stated. Certainly, even as a Cubs fan, it didn't appear as if it was an intentional throw. But it's hard to tell one way or another, and suggesting that it was intentional isn't as preposterous as some folks in here will lead you to believe.

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                        • p_rushing
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 14514

                          #57
                          Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

                          Yes there is some bad blood between Soriano and the Braves, but the Braves aren't dirty. I don't think you've been a Cubs fan for more than 1 year, because this goes beyond last year. I can't remember what started it, maybe it was the Fick play, but I thought it was before then. Its even gotten Glavine to hit guys. If Soriano wouldn't stand over the plate, he wouldn't of gotten hit. I do applaud him for taking it like a man and not wearing a full arm protection like Bonds.

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                          • BaseballCtchr
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 1306

                            #58
                            Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

                            Do they even keep a stat like percentage of being thrown by a particular team???? Your reaching dude.

                            Anyway you are using an extremely small sample size so how about how many times he was hit the year he played for the Nats when he saw the Braves a lot more.

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                              #59
                              Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

                              The bottom line is, you guys should have let that goat into the stadium.
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                              • Sportsforever
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                                • Mar 2005
                                • 20368

                                #60
                                Re: Braves up to the same old dirty shenanigans

                                Originally posted by yvesdereuter
                                Wow, some of you really ride the short bus. As I said before theres a history. The Braves did this last year as well. Going with the conservative estimate, lets say the Cubs play the Braves 7 games a season. Thats 4.3% of their total games. Now, pay close attention. Last year Soriano was hit by a pitch 4 times. 25% of that comes from 4% of their games. Put another way, thats once every 7 gamse against the Braves but once every 52 gamse against everyone else. This year Soriano has been hit twice in 52 games. One of those coming in their 3 gamse vs the Braves and once against everyone else in the other 44 games.

                                The Braves are an extremely small portion of our games but they account for an enormous percentage of Sorianos HBPs.
                                Dude, your sample sizes are way to small...you say that Soriano has been hit twice in 52 games this year. Who was the other team that hit him? I'm sure they have accounted for a small % of the games the Cubs have played and yet they account for (gasp) 50% of his HBP...they must have something against him and be dirty.
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