I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

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  • Rodster
    Banned
    • Mar 2003
    • 5709

    #1

    I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

    I bought the game today based on everyones fun time with the game and it is a blast. Damn it, now I have two BB games. HH2004 and MVP. I decided against WSB2K3 cause of the batting cursor. I had WSB last year and I swung at everything.

    OK here's the deal with the CPU swinging after bad pitches. They actually are and they do it a lot. EA apparently gave us a generous strike zone. While pitching if you place the BALL 50 % out side of the strike zone, it's considered a ball. Less than 50% it's considered a strike. Once the contoller starts to vibrate you technically are getting outside of the strike zone. With the generous strike zone and placing the ball no more than 60% outside the box the CPU will swing usually resulting in a foul. If you don't time your pitching meter right the CPU can and migjt jump on the pitch and make you pay, I should know.

    Now if the ball is completely outside the box the CPU is probably factoring a generous strike zone and if the ball is 100% outside the box it's probably thinking it doesn't belong in the Majors if it's going to swing at that.

    If you want to prove this theory it's easy. While you're batting turn on the strike zone box. You'll see the umpire calling balls anytime the ball is more than 50% percent outside the strike zone edge. If it's less than 50% it will call a strike.

    So hopefully this sheds a little light on the so called CPU not hitting bad balls cause they do and it happens more often than we realize.

    This is one fun game thanks to everyone for recommending it !

  • JRod
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 3266

    #2
    Re: I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

    So what you are saying you have to through a bad pitch for them to swing outside the strike zone.

    Or you just have to throw a fraction outside of the 50% threshold.

    ??

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    • JRod
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 3266

      #3
      Re: I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

      So what you are saying you have to through a bad pitch for them to swing outside the strike zone.

      Or you just have to throw a fraction outside of the 50% threshold.

      ??

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      • Nivek
        H*ll *f F*m*
        • Jul 2002
        • 7999

        #4
        Re: I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

        I get TONNES of strike outs...don't know what people on these boards are talking about. The key is.... timing! Remember the change up is your best friend!
        Cameras or guns, one of them is gonna shoot me to death.

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        • Nivek
          H*ll *f F*m*
          • Jul 2002
          • 7999

          #5
          Re: I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

          I get TONNES of strike outs...don't know what people on these boards are talking about. The key is.... timing! Remember the change up is your best friend!
          Cameras or guns, one of them is gonna shoot me to death.

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          • moosereihl
            Rookie
            • Aug 2002
            • 182

            #6
            Re: I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

            major league hitters chase some terrible pitches. so if this were a simulation, the cpu hitters should accassionally chase a terrible pitch. i wouldn't really consider it chasing if the ball is partially in the zone.

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            • moosereihl
              Rookie
              • Aug 2002
              • 182

              #7
              Re: I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

              major league hitters chase some terrible pitches. so if this were a simulation, the cpu hitters should accassionally chase a terrible pitch. i wouldn't really consider it chasing if the ball is partially in the zone.

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              • Rodster
                Banned
                • Mar 2003
                • 5709

                #8
                Re: I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

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                So what you are saying you have to through a bad pitch for them to swing outside the strike zone.

                Or you just have to throw a fraction outside of the 50% threshold.

                ??

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                To answer your question yes. A fraction outside of the 50% Strike Zone mark. Once the ball crosses more than 50% of the strike zone edge the less likely they will swing at a bad pitch. Now if your timing is off on the pitch it will increase the chances of the CPU jumping all over it.

                If your timing is perfect and you are in the 50% range outside of the strike zone it usually results in a foul ball or a 'swing and a miss'. Visually it looks like a strike but it couls be a ball they swung at.

                You can see for yourself by turning on the strike zone box in the game options. You'll see it for yourself what you think is a strike could very well be a bad pitch they swung at.

                Also once the contoller starts to vibrate you are now getting out of the strike zone. I learned this from watching the Harold Reynolds tutorial on batting and pitching.

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                • Rodster
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 5709

                  #9
                  Re: I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  So what you are saying you have to through a bad pitch for them to swing outside the strike zone.

                  Or you just have to throw a fraction outside of the 50% threshold.

                  ??

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  To answer your question yes. A fraction outside of the 50% Strike Zone mark. Once the ball crosses more than 50% of the strike zone edge the less likely they will swing at a bad pitch. Now if your timing is off on the pitch it will increase the chances of the CPU jumping all over it.

                  If your timing is perfect and you are in the 50% range outside of the strike zone it usually results in a foul ball or a 'swing and a miss'. Visually it looks like a strike but it couls be a ball they swung at.

                  You can see for yourself by turning on the strike zone box in the game options. You'll see it for yourself what you think is a strike could very well be a bad pitch they swung at.

                  Also once the contoller starts to vibrate you are now getting out of the strike zone. I learned this from watching the Harold Reynolds tutorial on batting and pitching.

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                  • godsbad
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 89

                    #10
                    Re: I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    major league hitters chase some terrible pitches. so if this were a simulation, the cpu hitters should accassionally chase a terrible pitch. i wouldn't really consider it chasing if the ball is partially in the zone.

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                    Exactly right, the CPU batters should definitely chase more pitches. If Randy Johnson throws a perfect 92 MPH slider that runs inside on a poor batter they should strike-out 9/10 times. That's basically the bottom line. Besides this problem, the game is wonderful.

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                    • godsbad
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 89

                      #11
                      Re: I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      major league hitters chase some terrible pitches. so if this were a simulation, the cpu hitters should accassionally chase a terrible pitch. i wouldn't really consider it chasing if the ball is partially in the zone.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Exactly right, the CPU batters should definitely chase more pitches. If Randy Johnson throws a perfect 92 MPH slider that runs inside on a poor batter they should strike-out 9/10 times. That's basically the bottom line. Besides this problem, the game is wonderful.

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                      • Jeff_Conine
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 322

                        #12
                        Re: I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

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                        I get TONNES of strike outs...don't know what people on these boards are talking about. The key is.... timing! Remember the change up is your best friend!

                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                        Getting Strikeouts is not the problem, it's getting the CPU to chase outside the zone.
                        It's pretty much my favorite animal. It's like a lion and a tiger mixed... bred for its skills in magic.

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                        • Jeff_Conine
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 322

                          #13
                          Re: I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

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                          I get TONNES of strike outs...don't know what people on these boards are talking about. The key is.... timing! Remember the change up is your best friend!

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          Getting Strikeouts is not the problem, it's getting the CPU to chase outside the zone.
                          It's pretty much my favorite animal. It's like a lion and a tiger mixed... bred for its skills in magic.

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                          • **DONOTDELETE**
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Oct 2025
                            • 19598

                            #14
                            Re: I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

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                            I get TONNES of strike outs...don't know what people on these boards are talking about. The key is.... timing! Remember the change up is your best friend!

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            yup. gotta love the old change..

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                            • **DONOTDELETE**
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Oct 2025
                              • 19598

                              #15
                              Re: I found the answer to CPU not swinging after bad pitches..they DO!

                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                              I get TONNES of strike outs...don't know what people on these boards are talking about. The key is.... timing! Remember the change up is your best friend!

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              yup. gotta love the old change..

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