Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

[TheLetterZ]

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Ugh. I'm more or less on your side, but please don't mention Ichiro and Eckstein in the same sentence.

Eckstein was the toughest player to strike out in the game last year, so I think the comparison is sound.

[Coug00]

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Eckstein was the toughest player to strike out in the game last year, so I think the comparison is sound.

Ichiro produces offensively though, Eckstein doesn't.

Its like comparing Ryan Howard to Khalil Green. They both strikeout a ton, but one of them actually produces offensively (in lieu of the strikeouts).

[windseer90]

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Eckstein was the toughest player to strike out in the game last year, so I think the comparison is sound.

And this year its Yadier Molina . Yadi is actually putting up some offensive production though, too.

[NYJets]

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But a groundout to Dan Uggla at least has a chance to be misplayed imo.

Also has a chance to be a double play at times, especially when it's a slower batter.

[dkgojackets]

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I guess Manny, Fuentes, Teixeira, Beltre, Bradley all suck since no one is beating down their team's doors for them. Its going to be a lame trade deadline.

Obviously!!

[BatsareBugs]

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Ichiro produces offensively though, Eckstein doesn't.

Its like comparing Ryan Howard to Khalil Green. They both strikeout a ton, but one of them actually produces offensively (in lieu of the strikeouts).

Ah, but one is a 1B playing half his games in a hitters park and the other is a SS playing half his games in a pitchers park, although this year that really doesn't matter because he's been crap the whole year. :wink:

There are a ton of good, productive players who end up striking out a lot. You can say that about Adam Dunn, but you can't ignore that he also gets a lot of walks. I would take him on my team, hell, his strikeout rate fits in with the rest of the Padres not named Brian Giles.

[PhantomPain]

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I guess Manny, Fuentes, Teixeira, Beltre, Bradley all suck since no one is beating down their team's doors for them. Its going to be a lame trade deadline.

Ok, go ahead and put words into my mouth or just twist what I said. I never said that Dunn sucks. And there is a HUGE difference in Manny and Dunn. Fuentes isn't being traded and Teixeira may have a home.

My point was that there are some people on this forum woh support Dunn as being a "great" hitter as to which I don't. And if he was such a "great" hitter then other teams would at least be showing interest or be willing to give something to get something. But they aren't. Take that however you want.

[sportsdude]

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Ok, go ahead and put words into my mouth or just twist what I said. I never said that Dunn sucks. And there is a HUGE difference in Manny and Dunn. Fuentes isn't being traded and Teixeira may have a home.

My point was that there are some people on this forum woh support Dunn as being a "great" hitter as to which I don't. And if he was such a "great" hitter then other teams would at least be showing interest or be willing to give something to get something. But they aren't. Take that however you want.

I think the reason most teams aren't lining up to trade for Dunn is because he'd be a half-season rental, and an expensive one at that. It seems a lot of teams are shying away from making these deadline deals because they hate giving up the compensatory picks.

If it was just in regards to Dunn's offensive prowess, I'd imagine Dunn would be near the top of most of the GM's lists.

[Coug00]

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Ok, go ahead and put words into my mouth or just twist what I said. I never said that Dunn sucks. And there is a HUGE difference in Manny and Dunn. Fuentes isn't being traded and Teixeira may have a home.

My point was that there are some people on this forum woh support Dunn as being a "great" hitter as to which I don't. And if he was such a "great" hitter then other teams would at least be showing interest or be willing to give something to get something. But they aren't. Take that however you want.

You tell me not to put words in your mouth, then you imply I am comparing Manny to Adam Dunn. Priceless. And THEN, you say there's a huge difference between the two. Bottom line, no there isn't. Unless you still think Manny is 32.

Fuentes is still on the board, along with about 12 other pretty good players, but teams are waiting to be blown away with offers. Guess what, it isn't happening (unless you want to get taken like LAA did)! Teams are finally learning not to give away the farm and the teams who own the stars are learning if they're going to walk in free agency they might as well pick up the compensatory draft picks (rather than take average prospects).

[TheMatrix31]

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I've had too much exposure to guys like Andruw Jones and Jeff Francoeur to tolerate the strikeout-or-HR nature of Adam Dunn. I want to be able to trust that my players can get on base and score in ways other than HRs. Not to say I wouldn't ever accept the big boppers, though. It's just my personality, I guess.

[PhantomPain]

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I think the reason most teams aren't lining up to trade for Dunn is because he'd be a half-season rental, and an expensive one at that. It seems a lot of teams are shying away from making these deadline deals because they hate giving up the compensatory picks.

If it was just in regards to Dunn's offensive prowess, I'd imagine Dunn would be near the top of most of the GM's lists.

I would just about agree with that except teams can work out a contract with him now so they don't have to go through that. If he wasn't a risk at all then there would be more teams looking at him. No biggie for me really. I am frustrated with him but if he stays then we know what we get. I personally have a love/hate thing with Dunn. :wink:

[RAZRr1275]

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I think Dunn is a great power hitter. If you want average and few strikeouts then he's not your guy but if you can afford the strikeouts and low average and need the power then he's your man.

[Sandman42]

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I've had too much exposure to guys like Andruw Jones and Jeff Francoeur to tolerate the strikeout-or-HR nature of Adam Dunn. I want to be able to trust that my players can get on base and score in ways other than HRs. Not to say I wouldn't ever accept the big boppers, though. It's just my personality, I guess.

Dunn actually draws walks though, unlike Francoeur and at a much higher rate than Jones.

[Brandon13]

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Dunn actually draws walks though, unlike Francoeur and at a much higher rate than Jones.

Beat me to it.

[sportsdude]

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I would just about agree with that except teams can work out a contract with him now so they don't have to go through that. If he wasn't a risk at all then there would be more teams looking at him. No biggie for me really. I am frustrated with him but if he stays then we know what we get. I personally have a love/hate thing with Dunn. :wink:

True, but let's be honest. How many players that were dealt in deadline deals ended up getting new contracts in that same season? You have to impress the owner, GM and manager in a little amount of time, plus GMs are not always willing to give away new deals to a brand new player like that because they're afraid they'll pay higher than market value.