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  • Gagnon39
    Windy City Sports Fan
    • Mar 2003
    • 8544

    #1

    Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

    I've nearly completed my first season with the Chicago Cubs and have gone in a complete circle trying to find realistic sliders. I've been reading everyone's sliders and tried a number of different combinations but to no avail. I played many games with high variable pitching (HVP) on and finally realized that was the problem. When I turned HVP down to MVP (medium) my games began to be so realistic it was scary.

    SEGA deserves much kudos for including variable pitching in the game. Most baseball games, especially in the past let you place ever pitch perfectly regardless of who was on the hill. However, pitchers like Pedro Martinez and the up-and-coming Mark Prior do not hang 10-20 pitches per game out over the plate for the opposition to smoke for home runs and base hits.

    I noticed that with HVP, the computer would hang at least 1 out of every 5 pitches right out over the middle of the plate, making for a very easy hitting experience. I have pitch speed on very fast and my cursor on small and could hit anywhere between 13-25 hits per game by simply pushing the swing button and not ever touching the left anolog stick.

    With medium variable pitching there are only a few completely misplaced balls but it is still difficult to be completely accurate. Also when playin on Legend, the default variable pitching setting is on medium, which would suggest that medium variable pitching is the most realistic.

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  • HBBFAN
    Rookie
    • Mar 2003
    • 109

    #2
    Re: Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

    wouldnt it be even more realalistic set on high that what i play on?

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    • HBBFAN
      Rookie
      • Mar 2003
      • 109

      #3
      Re: Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

      wouldnt it be even more realalistic set on high that what i play on?

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      • DirtyDozen
        Pro
        • Aug 2002
        • 828

        #4
        Re: Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

        I agree with Gagnon. Medium is the way to go. While High may give you more unpredictability, I think Medium is the most realistic. It seems that pitchers with good control will still hit about where they're aiming, but will also miss sometimes. That seems fair to me. MLB pitchers generally have good control, but sometimes will miss either a little or a lot. Medium seems to reflect this pretty well, while still giving you reasonable control (but not pinpoint).

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        • DirtyDozen
          Pro
          • Aug 2002
          • 828

          #5
          Re: Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

          I agree with Gagnon. Medium is the way to go. While High may give you more unpredictability, I think Medium is the most realistic. It seems that pitchers with good control will still hit about where they're aiming, but will also miss sometimes. That seems fair to me. MLB pitchers generally have good control, but sometimes will miss either a little or a lot. Medium seems to reflect this pretty well, while still giving you reasonable control (but not pinpoint).

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          • Gagnon39
            Windy City Sports Fan
            • Mar 2003
            • 8544

            #6
            Re: Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

            I've played many, many games with HVP and the hit cound (CPU/Human combined) is around 20-30 on average. With MVP, the combined hit cound is around 10-15, way more realistic. I still draw walks when I don't swing at everything, which is what I usually do and I still walk players every once in a while.

            I hardly ever walked a player with HVP, so MVP does not produce more walks it only makes the computer and the user throw more meat piches straight down the middle.

            If you are playing with HVP just check the "last pich" option ever so often during a game. In case you haven't found it, which it is difficult to find, press start then hit "A", it shows where the ball was meant to go and the path the ball actually took when delivered.

            I guarantee that about one out of ever 5-7 pitches will be meant for a corner of the plate but will be thrown right down the middle.

            In my opinion that is rediculous. Top notch pitchers do not leave 10-15 pitches just hanging out over the plate waiting to be crushed. With MVP, you still have difficulty placing the pitches exactly where you want them but when you are trying to throw a ball in the dirt, it doesn't wind up right down the middle and over the fence.
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            • Gagnon39
              Windy City Sports Fan
              • Mar 2003
              • 8544

              #7
              Re: Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

              I've played many, many games with HVP and the hit cound (CPU/Human combined) is around 20-30 on average. With MVP, the combined hit cound is around 10-15, way more realistic. I still draw walks when I don't swing at everything, which is what I usually do and I still walk players every once in a while.

              I hardly ever walked a player with HVP, so MVP does not produce more walks it only makes the computer and the user throw more meat piches straight down the middle.

              If you are playing with HVP just check the "last pich" option ever so often during a game. In case you haven't found it, which it is difficult to find, press start then hit "A", it shows where the ball was meant to go and the path the ball actually took when delivered.

              I guarantee that about one out of ever 5-7 pitches will be meant for a corner of the plate but will be thrown right down the middle.

              In my opinion that is rediculous. Top notch pitchers do not leave 10-15 pitches just hanging out over the plate waiting to be crushed. With MVP, you still have difficulty placing the pitches exactly where you want them but when you are trying to throw a ball in the dirt, it doesn't wind up right down the middle and over the fence.
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              • famousmortimer
                Rookie
                • Jul 2002
                • 337

                #8
                Re: Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

                Medium is perfect to me. I use the sox and pedro cant hit most of his spots while Wakefield will throw off target as much as he is on.


                Perfectly balanced, IMO.

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                • famousmortimer
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 337

                  #9
                  Re: Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

                  Medium is perfect to me. I use the sox and pedro cant hit most of his spots while Wakefield will throw off target as much as he is on.


                  Perfectly balanced, IMO.

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                  • Leebo33
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 194

                    #10
                    Re: Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

                    This is a very good post. I recently switched to HVP from MVP and I started getting about 15 hits a game and 3 or 4 HRs with the small cursor. I just thought I was getting that much better, but I have noticed a lot more grooved pitches now that you mention it. I am going to switch back now and try medium.

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                    • Leebo33
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 194

                      #11
                      Re: Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

                      This is a very good post. I recently switched to HVP from MVP and I started getting about 15 hits a game and 3 or 4 HRs with the small cursor. I just thought I was getting that much better, but I have noticed a lot more grooved pitches now that you mention it. I am going to switch back now and try medium.

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                      • tinman
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 326

                        #12
                        Re: Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

                        that makes a ton of sense... I didn't think about it at the time, but I moved from MVP to HVP fifteen games in and all of a sudden my hitting exploded. I was initially psyched because I was drawing 3-5 walks a game but I was also hitting nearly 3-4 homeruns a game. I chalked it up to me just finally learning how to hit in the game. It didn't dawn on my until reading your post that my hitting explosion coincided with me changing the settings. And now that I think about it more, since I changed the settings, I haven't been really even moving my cursor to hit, but just leaving in the middle. I'm switching back to Medium... Great observation...Jason Lane should not be leading the league in homeruns...

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                        • tinman
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 326

                          #13
                          Re: Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

                          that makes a ton of sense... I didn't think about it at the time, but I moved from MVP to HVP fifteen games in and all of a sudden my hitting exploded. I was initially psyched because I was drawing 3-5 walks a game but I was also hitting nearly 3-4 homeruns a game. I chalked it up to me just finally learning how to hit in the game. It didn't dawn on my until reading your post that my hitting explosion coincided with me changing the settings. And now that I think about it more, since I changed the settings, I haven't been really even moving my cursor to hit, but just leaving in the middle. I'm switching back to Medium... Great observation...Jason Lane should not be leading the league in homeruns...

                          Dan Rather just popped up on my television with a special report... there may be some craziness happening in the world...

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                          • Gagnon39
                            Windy City Sports Fan
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 8544

                            #14
                            Re: Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

                            I was baffled at why my hitting increased as well when I messed with the settings. It took me forever to realize that it was the variable pitching. I think the simple fact that the default is medium, even on Legend shows that MVP is the most true to life.

                            Be sure to check out the "last picht" option because this is the proof that HVP leaves way to many pitches out over the plate.
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                            • Gagnon39
                              Windy City Sports Fan
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 8544

                              #15
                              Re: Medium variable pitching is the way to go!

                              I was baffled at why my hitting increased as well when I messed with the settings. It took me forever to realize that it was the variable pitching. I think the simple fact that the default is medium, even on Legend shows that MVP is the most true to life.

                              Be sure to check out the "last picht" option because this is the proof that HVP leaves way to many pitches out over the plate.
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