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[LetsGoPitt]

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HMcCoy- Yes, I do put a premium on the timing. I think if you swing late the ball should go to the opposite field- just like it real baseball. It's just physics. And, I don't think it should be a complete guessing game. I mean, it's ok to look change up and only swing if that's what you get. But to look fastball and still have to guess location... You may see guys get fooled by curves, etc., but I've never seen anybody swing high and inside on a fastball when it was down and away. Have you?

Have you tried HH? Do you recommend it? I may have to give it a shot.



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Instead of spending another $50, why not play the game as it was intended to be played instead of going out of your way to find ways to not like it? Most "flaws" people seem to be finding are because people are deliberately playing the game wrong. I'm no programmer, but I'm sure it's hard to plan for every contingency where some person is going to go out of their way to play the game in a way other than intended. "Hmmm...you know, we better make sure we plan against anyone swinging the bat before the pitch is released, because that happens all the time in real life."

And use the $50 you saved to donate to OS

[scamden311]

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Hey guys. I have ASB and HH. All i heard people talking about was how realistic HH was. While i see their point about some things, HH seems totally unrealistic when it comes to other things. First off, that 2 out glitch is a killer. I have lost 2 games because of this im my franchise! Thats just unexcuseable. Also be prepared to change the sliders. Playing on all star i had 4 in the park homers scored on me in 7 games! It also seems like the diffuculty levels of this game are very in consistent. One game ill have a 4-3 close game, and the next game the comp will beat me 17-3. Its really disheartining to think you have the settings right and have that happen.That said the game does do alot of things well.I would tell you to rent it.

[scamden311]

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Hey guys. I have ASB and HH. All i heard people talking about was how realistic HH was. While i see their point about some things, HH seems totally unrealistic when it comes to other things. First off, that 2 out glitch is a killer. I have lost 2 games because of this im my franchise! Thats just unexcuseable. Also be prepared to change the sliders. Playing on all star i had 4 in the park homers scored on me in 7 games! It also seems like the diffuculty levels of this game are very in consistent. One game ill have a 4-3 close game, and the next game the comp will beat me 17-3. Its really disheartining to think you have the settings right and have that happen.That said the game does do alot of things well.I would tell you to rent it.

[ccplu59]

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Do you guys play on all-star with the normal cursor? I do, I gaurantee that if pull this "auto-swing" stuff, you will strike out maybe 20-27 times a game. When doing this pre-swing, you are banking on two things: 1) that the pitcher is going to throw a 4 seam or 2 seam fastball or a cutter and 2)that your teensie-weensie little cursor is going to be at the exact spot where the ball will be pitched. Now you can guess pitch that the pitch will be a fastball (cause obviously it has to be to hit it) and that will make your cursor larger but there is still a very large area (including outside the strike zone) that the ball could be placed. Not only are you depedent of this, you are also dependent on whether the pitch is a fastball, for some pitchers (who only have 2 pitches) this is a 50-50 game, vs. other pitchers (like Hudon) who have 5 pitches, this is a very improbable static.

I ve noticed that any fastballs above 85 mph, I cannot hit period. By the time i register that it's a fastball coming and I press the swing button (btw the swing isn't immediate when you press it ) even if my cursor is on location I am still too late. And its not as if I have bad reflexes. This is what I feel is the fundamental flaw in this game, I love the game, but the fact that you have to swing for a fastball before its even coming, wo any chance to line up the cursor is ridiculous. For fastballs not near my cursor there isnt any cahnce whatsoever. The result is that I end up sitting on changeups and curveballs and this is not realistic. I enjoy the challenge, but not to the point of impossible so I have to hit curveballs and changeups all the time.

[ccplu59]

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Do you guys play on all-star with the normal cursor? I do, I gaurantee that if pull this "auto-swing" stuff, you will strike out maybe 20-27 times a game. When doing this pre-swing, you are banking on two things: 1) that the pitcher is going to throw a 4 seam or 2 seam fastball or a cutter and 2)that your teensie-weensie little cursor is going to be at the exact spot where the ball will be pitched. Now you can guess pitch that the pitch will be a fastball (cause obviously it has to be to hit it) and that will make your cursor larger but there is still a very large area (including outside the strike zone) that the ball could be placed. Not only are you depedent of this, you are also dependent on whether the pitch is a fastball, for some pitchers (who only have 2 pitches) this is a 50-50 game, vs. other pitchers (like Hudon) who have 5 pitches, this is a very improbable static.

I ve noticed that any fastballs above 85 mph, I cannot hit period. By the time i register that it's a fastball coming and I press the swing button (btw the swing isn't immediate when you press it ) even if my cursor is on location I am still too late. And its not as if I have bad reflexes. This is what I feel is the fundamental flaw in this game, I love the game, but the fact that you have to swing for a fastball before its even coming, wo any chance to line up the cursor is ridiculous. For fastballs not near my cursor there isnt any cahnce whatsoever. The result is that I end up sitting on changeups and curveballs and this is not realistic. I enjoy the challenge, but not to the point of impossible so I have to hit curveballs and changeups all the time.

[LetsGoPitt]

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If you turn on exaggerated pitches, it makes it a little easier to hit those 98mph fastballs, but it's still pretty tough.

[LetsGoPitt]

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If you turn on exaggerated pitches, it makes it a little easier to hit those 98mph fastballs, but it's still pretty tough.

[HMcCoy]

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Do you guys play on all-star with the normal cursor? I do, I gaurantee that if pull this "auto-swing" stuff, you will strike out maybe 20-27 times a game. When doing this pre-swing, you are banking on two things: 1) that the pitcher is going to throw a 4 seam or 2 seam fastball or a cutter and 2)that your teensie-weensie little cursor is going to be at the exact spot where the ball will be pitched. Now you can guess pitch that the pitch will be a fastball (cause obviously it has to be to hit it) and that will make your cursor larger but there is still a very large area (including outside the strike zone) that the ball could be placed. Not only are you depedent of this, you are also dependent on whether the pitch is a fastball, for some pitchers (who only have 2 pitches) this is a 50-50 game, vs. other pitchers (like Hudon) who have 5 pitches, this is a very improbable static.

I ve noticed that any fastballs above 85 mph, I cannot hit period. By the time i register that it's a fastball coming and I press the swing button (btw the swing isn't immediate when you press it ) even if my cursor is on location I am still too late. And its not as if I have bad reflexes. This is what I feel is the fundamental flaw in this game, I love the game, but the fact that you have to swing for a fastball before its even coming, wo any chance to line up the cursor is ridiculous. For fastballs not near my cursor there isnt any cahnce whatsoever. The result is that I end up sitting on changeups and curveballs and this is not realistic. I enjoy the challenge, but not to the point of impossible so I have to hit curveballs and changeups all the time.

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To answer your first question, I play on All-Star, normal pitches, normal cursor. Now that I have been using this trick I must correct my earlier post. You CAN check swing. The pause between the pitch being released and the start of the swing is long enough that you can release the button in time to check or not swing at all if you recognize a bad pitch early enough.

After a full weekend of using this, i've found that the only real advantage is that now when I can detect a pitchers patterns and decide to wait for a certain location, its easier to get around on the really nasty hard stuff. It helps but isn't too cheap. As a matter of fact I love it. I recommend it to anyone struggling badly with fastballs.

[HMcCoy]

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Do you guys play on all-star with the normal cursor? I do, I gaurantee that if pull this "auto-swing" stuff, you will strike out maybe 20-27 times a game. When doing this pre-swing, you are banking on two things: 1) that the pitcher is going to throw a 4 seam or 2 seam fastball or a cutter and 2)that your teensie-weensie little cursor is going to be at the exact spot where the ball will be pitched. Now you can guess pitch that the pitch will be a fastball (cause obviously it has to be to hit it) and that will make your cursor larger but there is still a very large area (including outside the strike zone) that the ball could be placed. Not only are you depedent of this, you are also dependent on whether the pitch is a fastball, for some pitchers (who only have 2 pitches) this is a 50-50 game, vs. other pitchers (like Hudon) who have 5 pitches, this is a very improbable static.

I ve noticed that any fastballs above 85 mph, I cannot hit period. By the time i register that it's a fastball coming and I press the swing button (btw the swing isn't immediate when you press it ) even if my cursor is on location I am still too late. And its not as if I have bad reflexes. This is what I feel is the fundamental flaw in this game, I love the game, but the fact that you have to swing for a fastball before its even coming, wo any chance to line up the cursor is ridiculous. For fastballs not near my cursor there isnt any cahnce whatsoever. The result is that I end up sitting on changeups and curveballs and this is not realistic. I enjoy the challenge, but not to the point of impossible so I have to hit curveballs and changeups all the time.

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To answer your first question, I play on All-Star, normal pitches, normal cursor. Now that I have been using this trick I must correct my earlier post. You CAN check swing. The pause between the pitch being released and the start of the swing is long enough that you can release the button in time to check or not swing at all if you recognize a bad pitch early enough.

After a full weekend of using this, i've found that the only real advantage is that now when I can detect a pitchers patterns and decide to wait for a certain location, its easier to get around on the really nasty hard stuff. It helps but isn't too cheap. As a matter of fact I love it. I recommend it to anyone struggling badly with fastballs.

[ccplu59]

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If you turn on exaggerated pitches, it makes it a little easier to hit those 98mph fastballs, but it's still pretty tough.

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I don't know if this is just my perception, but when I turn exagarrated pitches on, I notice a big difference in curve ball, slider, changeup, splitter, and slurve speeds and movement, but the only difference in two seam and 4 seam fastballs are that with exagarrated pitching on, the 2 seamer drops less and the 4 seamer rises less. I don't notice much of a difference in the pitch speed

[ccplu59]

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If you turn on exaggerated pitches, it makes it a little easier to hit those 98mph fastballs, but it's still pretty tough.

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I don't know if this is just my perception, but when I turn exagarrated pitches on, I notice a big difference in curve ball, slider, changeup, splitter, and slurve speeds and movement, but the only difference in two seam and 4 seam fastballs are that with exagarrated pitching on, the 2 seamer drops less and the 4 seamer rises less. I don't notice much of a difference in the pitch speed

[sunsfan]

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I guess my main point with the "auto" swing was that the ball should be pulled because that is the earliest you can possibly swing. And I noticed that sometimes it wasn't. I wasn't going out of my way to play the game in a way it wasn't meant to be played. I was simple trying to swing as early as possible because I found myself swing too late on fastballs.

If you don't mind "predetermined" outcomes, then great. This game is for you. It's a good game. The graphics are amazing.

[sunsfan]

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I guess my main point with the "auto" swing was that the ball should be pulled because that is the earliest you can possibly swing. And I noticed that sometimes it wasn't. I wasn't going out of my way to play the game in a way it wasn't meant to be played. I was simple trying to swing as early as possible because I found myself swing too late on fastballs.

If you don't mind "predetermined" outcomes, then great. This game is for you. It's a good game. The graphics are amazing.

[Pared]

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Hey guys. I have ASB and HH. All i heard people talking about was how realistic HH was. While i see their point about some things, HH seems totally unrealistic when it comes to other things. First off, that 2 out glitch is a killer. I have lost 2 games because of this im my franchise! Thats just unexcuseable. Also be prepared to change the sliders. Playing on all star i had 4 in the park homers scored on me in 7 games! It also seems like the diffuculty levels of this game are very in consistent. One game ill have a 4-3 close game, and the next game the comp will beat me 17-3. Its really disheartining to think you have the settings right and have that happen.That said the game does do alot of things well.I would tell you to rent it.

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What the hell does that have to do with ASB? Gimme a break. The guy pointed out a flaw, and you guys tell him to take the game back. Even a MOD! Yeah, so much for the guy being able to express his opinions. It's not like he even bashed the game. I actually agree with the original poster's points. Do us all a favor and let's just stay about this thread. People are so quick to point out the flaws in HH, yet don't like discussing them in ASB.

[Pared]

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Hey guys. I have ASB and HH. All i heard people talking about was how realistic HH was. While i see their point about some things, HH seems totally unrealistic when it comes to other things. First off, that 2 out glitch is a killer. I have lost 2 games because of this im my franchise! Thats just unexcuseable. Also be prepared to change the sliders. Playing on all star i had 4 in the park homers scored on me in 7 games! It also seems like the diffuculty levels of this game are very in consistent. One game ill have a 4-3 close game, and the next game the comp will beat me 17-3. Its really disheartining to think you have the settings right and have that happen.That said the game does do alot of things well.I would tell you to rent it.

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What the hell does that have to do with ASB? Gimme a break. The guy pointed out a flaw, and you guys tell him to take the game back. Even a MOD! Yeah, so much for the guy being able to express his opinions. It's not like he even bashed the game. I actually agree with the original poster's points. Do us all a favor and let's just stay about this thread. People are so quick to point out the flaws in HH, yet don't like discussing them in ASB.