Manage only - power vs contact

[gamer]

Re: Manage only - power vs contact

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I absolutely am giddy upon reading this thread. I have been a MO person forever because I want the game to be a simulation, not a test of my digital dexterity. I don't want my d-d to have an outcome over a game. My decision making ability is want I want tested. I love the ASB MO. I don't even use my controller but my remote control(ps2). Makes me feel that I am managing even more. The only thing I wish could be added to the MO would be the ability to also choose pitch location. With that said I play alot of HH. You can set the game to where it is close to MO, by having auto for hitting, etc. When a bunt situation arises, just toggle to manual hitting, get the job done, and toggle back. With this setup in HH, I can choose pitch type and location. The bottom line is that it may be goofy the way I play my ballgames, but its the way I like it. I have the best of both worlds. I bounce back and forth between the two games because both offer what I want in games(love playing at the Polo Gounds). We as gamers are set this year. Look at the choices, there is something out there for everyone. Anyway, thanks for this thread, lets keep it going. We are a rare breed, a special breed, the purist of breeds.

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How do you set up HH to play manage only mode? Tell me more about it because I might pick up HH as well if manage only is good in HH too.

[gamer]

Re: Manage only - power vs contact

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I absolutely am giddy upon reading this thread. I have been a MO person forever because I want the game to be a simulation, not a test of my digital dexterity. I don't want my d-d to have an outcome over a game. My decision making ability is want I want tested. I love the ASB MO. I don't even use my controller but my remote control(ps2). Makes me feel that I am managing even more. The only thing I wish could be added to the MO would be the ability to also choose pitch location. With that said I play alot of HH. You can set the game to where it is close to MO, by having auto for hitting, etc. When a bunt situation arises, just toggle to manual hitting, get the job done, and toggle back. With this setup in HH, I can choose pitch type and location. The bottom line is that it may be goofy the way I play my ballgames, but its the way I like it. I have the best of both worlds. I bounce back and forth between the two games because both offer what I want in games(love playing at the Polo Gounds). We as gamers are set this year. Look at the choices, there is something out there for everyone. Anyway, thanks for this thread, lets keep it going. We are a rare breed, a special breed, the purist of breeds.

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How do you set up HH to play manage only mode? Tell me more about it because I might pick up HH as well if manage only is good in HH too.

[Hammerhunker]

Re: Manage only - power vs contact

How do you set up HH to play manage only mode? Tell me more about it because I might pick up HH as well if manage only is good in HH too.


In home and away settings, depending who you are, just set to automatic instead of manual. You can have everything almost like manage mode except when you need to bunt, then you adjust to manual. I manually baserun, gives me the feeling of being a base-coach.

I like the idea too of setting the pitching to automatic, that is something I will try. I would have to control fielding and throwing.

Excellent point about not controlling location is more realistic. I have thought of that also. One thought though, if you have a hitter that hit predominately to one part of the field, say a lefthander that pulls the ball, you would want to shift your outfield to right. As a manager, you would want your pitcher to work a certain part of the plate to take advantage of the shift. You wouldn't want him working the outside corner, allowing the hitter to poke it down the leftfield line with your leftfielder standing in the gap. Just a small detail. There lies the problem. Just in ASB can you see a hitter's distribution percentage, so if you shift your fielders, you are at the mercy of your pitcher to make a good pitch. HH doesn't have a feature to let you see such statistic, so you have to go more by what the hitter has done in previous at bats in that game. Then, you can make the shift and pitch to certain parts of the plate to hopefully have the hitter help you out. I don't know if these games have been programed to react to such strategy, but it is fun to play as if it were.

[Hammerhunker]

Re: Manage only - power vs contact

How do you set up HH to play manage only mode? Tell me more about it because I might pick up HH as well if manage only is good in HH too.


In home and away settings, depending who you are, just set to automatic instead of manual. You can have everything almost like manage mode except when you need to bunt, then you adjust to manual. I manually baserun, gives me the feeling of being a base-coach.

I like the idea too of setting the pitching to automatic, that is something I will try. I would have to control fielding and throwing.

Excellent point about not controlling location is more realistic. I have thought of that also. One thought though, if you have a hitter that hit predominately to one part of the field, say a lefthander that pulls the ball, you would want to shift your outfield to right. As a manager, you would want your pitcher to work a certain part of the plate to take advantage of the shift. You wouldn't want him working the outside corner, allowing the hitter to poke it down the leftfield line with your leftfielder standing in the gap. Just a small detail. There lies the problem. Just in ASB can you see a hitter's distribution percentage, so if you shift your fielders, you are at the mercy of your pitcher to make a good pitch. HH doesn't have a feature to let you see such statistic, so you have to go more by what the hitter has done in previous at bats in that game. Then, you can make the shift and pitch to certain parts of the plate to hopefully have the hitter help you out. I don't know if these games have been programed to react to such strategy, but it is fun to play as if it were.

[dce1228]

Re: Manage only - power vs contact

The pitching AI is definiely improved from ASB2003. When I manage I can tell early on if a pitcher is going to be tough by how well he's hitting the corners. If he's letting one slip down the middle once an at-bat, that's enough to know he's going to give up some runs. One thing I do, as far as strategy, is I constantly try to throw strikes. I've got Andy Pettitte. He's got a great cutter, 2 seam, change, and sinker, with a curve for show. Basically if I miss low with him I'll go with a sinker because chances are his next pitch will be higher. If I miss inside with a 2 seamer, I'll go cutter next because the law of averages says he won't be inside again... and you know, it works great. And two change-ups in a row always baffles them. When I control the pitching I never give up walks, which is unrealistic. Letting the pitchers throw for themselves produces pretty right-on stats, I find.

[dce1228]

Re: Manage only - power vs contact

The pitching AI is definiely improved from ASB2003. When I manage I can tell early on if a pitcher is going to be tough by how well he's hitting the corners. If he's letting one slip down the middle once an at-bat, that's enough to know he's going to give up some runs. One thing I do, as far as strategy, is I constantly try to throw strikes. I've got Andy Pettitte. He's got a great cutter, 2 seam, change, and sinker, with a curve for show. Basically if I miss low with him I'll go with a sinker because chances are his next pitch will be higher. If I miss inside with a 2 seamer, I'll go cutter next because the law of averages says he won't be inside again... and you know, it works great. And two change-ups in a row always baffles them. When I control the pitching I never give up walks, which is unrealistic. Letting the pitchers throw for themselves produces pretty right-on stats, I find.

[gamer]

Re: Manage only - power vs contact

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The pitching AI is definiely improved from ASB2003. When I manage I can tell early on if a pitcher is going to be tough by how well he's hitting the corners. If he's letting one slip down the middle once an at-bat, that's enough to know he's going to give up some runs. One thing I do, as far as strategy, is I constantly try to throw strikes. I've got Andy Pettitte. He's got a great cutter, 2 seam, change, and sinker, with a curve for show. Basically if I miss low with him I'll go with a sinker because chances are his next pitch will be higher. If I miss inside with a 2 seamer, I'll go cutter next because the law of averages says he won't be inside again... and you know, it works great. And two change-ups in a row always baffles them. When I control the pitching I never give up walks, which is unrealistic. Letting the pitchers throw for themselves produces pretty right-on stats, I find.

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I never thought about using the laws of statistics to predict where my pitcher would throw next using manage only mode. That's a very good idea, and I will start using your technique. Manage only really challenges your intellect, and you guys have a lot of baseball knowledge. Keep the ideas flowing.

[gamer]

Re: Manage only - power vs contact

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The pitching AI is definiely improved from ASB2003. When I manage I can tell early on if a pitcher is going to be tough by how well he's hitting the corners. If he's letting one slip down the middle once an at-bat, that's enough to know he's going to give up some runs. One thing I do, as far as strategy, is I constantly try to throw strikes. I've got Andy Pettitte. He's got a great cutter, 2 seam, change, and sinker, with a curve for show. Basically if I miss low with him I'll go with a sinker because chances are his next pitch will be higher. If I miss inside with a 2 seamer, I'll go cutter next because the law of averages says he won't be inside again... and you know, it works great. And two change-ups in a row always baffles them. When I control the pitching I never give up walks, which is unrealistic. Letting the pitchers throw for themselves produces pretty right-on stats, I find.

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I never thought about using the laws of statistics to predict where my pitcher would throw next using manage only mode. That's a very good idea, and I will start using your technique. Manage only really challenges your intellect, and you guys have a lot of baseball knowledge. Keep the ideas flowing.

[Hammerhunker]

Re: Manage only - power vs contact

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Letting the pitchers throw for themselves produces pretty right-on stats, I find.

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This is interesting. Do you then control fielding and throwing? Do you get a little antsy sitting there letting the computer making the pitch call? My micro-managing mentality would make this tough but I am going to the lab and try it out. One last thing, do you mess with your fielder's positioning quite a bit or do you let the computer control this too?

[Hammerhunker]

Re: Manage only - power vs contact

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Letting the pitchers throw for themselves produces pretty right-on stats, I find.

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This is interesting. Do you then control fielding and throwing? Do you get a little antsy sitting there letting the computer making the pitch call? My micro-managing mentality would make this tough but I am going to the lab and try it out. One last thing, do you mess with your fielder's positioning quite a bit or do you let the computer control this too?

[dce1228]

Re: Manage only - power vs contact

I choose the pitch, while letting the pitcher throw it where he wishes. Usually I'm choosing the pitch based on the previous pitch and pitch location.

I set the fielding on auto, but manually position the fielders. Usually I'm exercising when I play, so they ammount of work, a button push every ten seconds or so is cool with me... and yes, the stats are usually right on. Except the hitting is almost always lame, which gets dull... but I sim enough so the stats tend to catch up.

[dce1228]

Re: Manage only - power vs contact

I choose the pitch, while letting the pitcher throw it where he wishes. Usually I'm choosing the pitch based on the previous pitch and pitch location.

I set the fielding on auto, but manually position the fielders. Usually I'm exercising when I play, so they ammount of work, a button push every ten seconds or so is cool with me... and yes, the stats are usually right on. Except the hitting is almost always lame, which gets dull... but I sim enough so the stats tend to catch up.

[HiJumpr111]

Manage Only and Homerun Totals

Well, I decided to start off from scratch (on Manage Only, of course) and begin my Reds franchise with the most updated rosters I could put together and lo and behold....through 5 games, I have yet to hit a homer.
I'm wondering how long this streak will continue. Before, I I would at least hit one every four games or so at the very least.

If some of you are deeper into your Manage0Only franchises, I'd like to know your HR totals.

[HiJumpr111]

Manage Only and Homerun Totals

Well, I decided to start off from scratch (on Manage Only, of course) and begin my Reds franchise with the most updated rosters I could put together and lo and behold....through 5 games, I have yet to hit a homer.
I'm wondering how long this streak will continue. Before, I I would at least hit one every four games or so at the very least.

If some of you are deeper into your Manage0Only franchises, I'd like to know your HR totals.

[dce1228]

Re: Manage Only and Homerun Totals

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Well, I decided to start off from scratch (on Manage Only, of course) and begin my Reds franchise with the most updated rosters I could put together and lo and behold....through 5 games, I have yet to hit a homer.
I'm wondering how long this streak will continue. Before, I I would at least hit one every four games or so at the very least.

If some of you are deeper into your Manage Only franchises, I'd like to know your HR totals.


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Hmm, I wonder who holds the record for continuous games played on manage only without simming... in the games defense (I know I was bitching hard-core about the lack of offense) I've hit a nice string of games now with good parts offense without losing the good pitching. I even hit a nice 3 run jack with Darin Erstad yesterday that made me very happy. I put the game on exagerrated count and the batting on classic-- it might help, might not. It seems to have, but maybe the game was ready to start hitting regardless.

All I can say is hang in there. Work the count. Find the grooves... and sim... you gotta sim, or control your guys.