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  • Scottdau
    Banned
    • Feb 2003
    • 32580

    #31
    Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

    I still say if the team don't care about it why should we? So I support them and they get beat bad, why should I care. After what I saw tonight they cared. Finally. But that other game that they got spanked they didn't care until they had all the back lash from the press and the fans. When you start something new you have to win to get a fan base. Unless you are a pro team. Then the fans come out for awhile and then if they keep on losing they stop coming. The thing is this is different you have to win now. If I saw more better players going to this classic. Then maybe they would get more support. If they win it all, you will see people going to this thing. The thing is a we all like winners that is the American way! You know that.

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    • spyder23
      Rookie
      • Apr 2003
      • 169

      #32
      Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

      Originally posted by Pared
      How old are you?

      I didn't preach anything yet discussed how other nations have more pride for their team and the differences here. Comments of substance, as opposed to your sarcastic little reply while not even being in the discussion to begin with.

      Typical message board hit and run.
      Pot calling kettle black, bro. I've read many of your sarcastic remarks over the years.
      Don't flame b/c you got called out.

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      • spyder23
        Rookie
        • Apr 2003
        • 169

        #33
        Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

        And whoever said that last nights win will bring out the support...please. The only reason the USA-Canada game was jam packed in Toronto was b/c they played Canada.

        Regardless of where the semi's are played, it's not gonna sell out due to an increase in US supporters. Just not gonna happen. This is the like the XFL of baseball "playoffs".

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        • Scottdau
          Banned
          • Feb 2003
          • 32580

          #34
          Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

          Originally posted by Pared
          How old are you?

          I didn't preach anything yet discussed how other nations have more pride for their team and the differences here. Comments of substance, as opposed to your sarcastic little reply while not even being in the discussion to begin with.

          Typical message board hit and run.
          It really comes down to Counties want to beat the USA And also, they want to represent their country. We do that do a point. But we are spoiled. We have won a lot of things. I will tell you this it is easy to support a team that gets the best players from MLB. Look at the other teams players. Those guys are the best and yet we get Jeter and some other players. Sure they are good players, but are they the best. What about Howard, Fielder, or some other studs.

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          • Scottdau
            Banned
            • Feb 2003
            • 32580

            #35
            Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

            Originally posted by spyder23
            And whoever said that last nights win will bring out the support...please. The only reason the USA-Canada game was jam packed in Toronto was b/c they played Canada.

            Regardless of where the semi's are played, it's not gonna sell out due to an increase in US supporters. Just not gonna happen. This is the like the XFL of baseball "playoffs".
            You are off on that. It will bring support. You watch! A lot of people will watch the next game. You win we will come!

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            • Scottdau
              Banned
              • Feb 2003
              • 32580

              #36
              Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

              I will say one thing if they were kicking *** you guys would be watching. It does make you feel good about your country. One more thing. It is hard for me to watch when I know my team is going to get beat and even worst not care. So that is why winning is important.

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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #37
                Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                I'm not surprised by the comments. Anytime someone puts down American fans, they stick their heads out of their little ostrich hole and start screaming about respect and pride and how it's never their fault.

                Face it, other countries care more. Blame it on the MLB, teams, owners, coaches, players, whatever you want. The simple fact was pointed out by Youk. The fans care just as little.
                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                • Scottdau
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 32580

                  #38
                  Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                  Originally posted by YankeePride
                  I'm not surprised by the comments. Anytime someone puts down American fans, they stick their heads out of their little ostrich hole and start screaming about respect and pride and how it's never their fault.

                  Face it, other countries care more. Blame it on the MLB, teams, owners, coaches, players, whatever you want. The simple fact was pointed out by Youk. The fans care just as little.
                  I agree with this, but I say win Youk they will come.

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                  • Scottdau
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 32580

                    #39
                    Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                    I really believe that the American people know that this team is not going to win it all. So it is hard to watch that. When this thing started I felt that the USA would get knocked out early. If they win it all. I can see this having a huge fan base next year. The bottom line is Pared America loves winners. Sure it is a band wagon, but that is just how it is. If Youk is expecting more they need to win more.

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                    • wwharton
                      *ll St*r
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 26949

                      #40
                      Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                      Originally posted by DTX3
                      That's the whole point of what he said, the U.S. just doesn't have as much pride in these type of things like other countries do.
                      It's not about "pride" though. Baseball is an American sport. The MLB is WORLDS more important to every fan AND player than this new concoction they threw together. The best players around the world want to get in the MLB so when they have a chance to stand together as a country and take down the players from America OF COURSE they're going to have more interest... anything taking down America will bring more interest anyway. Meanwhile, in the US we're easing into the baseball season slowly with this now being spring training. You can't just say Americans should be more interested in this... just because. Doesn't work like that. It's not the Olympics. The US sports world revolves around football (NFL and college), basketball (NBA and college) and MLB. You can't just shove something else in there (during March Madness mind you) and wonder why Americans aren't flocking to it while other countries are.

                      Originally posted by mgoblue
                      Am I the only one who thinks it's dumb for the WBC to expect millions of fans to give a crap about some "world baseball classic" that they just created a few years ago to make money? It's not like the Olympics or World Cup that actually mean something, it's just some crappy dumb idea that screws over MLB teams that have good players.

                      I think it's insane to bash fans for not caring about this, why should we care? Yeah, I have national pride, but it's just a stupid made up event played at a horrible time. It's not like these are players ready to go, it's spring training and they're all horribly rusty.

                      Sorry for the anti-WBC talk, but I just don't give a crap and think it's dumb to expect me to treat it like the Olympics.
                      Not at all, I'm with you 100%. And I'm a huge baseball fan. It's a bad idea, done at a bad time of year... It's good for every country but America unless we're talking about American scouts.

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                      • DrJones
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 9109

                        #41
                        Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                        Originally posted by mgoblue
                        Am I the only one who thinks it's dumb for the WBC to expect millions of fans to give a crap about some "world baseball classic" that they just created a few years ago to make money? It's not like the Olympics or World Cup that actually mean something, it's just some crappy dumb idea that screws over MLB teams that have good players.

                        I think it's insane to bash fans for not caring about this, why should we care? Yeah, I have national pride, but it's just a stupid made up event played at a horrible time. It's not like these are players ready to go, it's spring training and they're all horribly rusty.

                        Sorry for the anti-WBC talk, but I just don't give a crap and think it's dumb to expect me to treat it like the Olympics.
                        How's this different from the Canada Cup/World Cup of Hockey? It started out as a made-up event before the NHL season to make money for the player's union. You can't tell me Canadians don't care about it.

                        Japan takes their major leagues seriously, yet they're into it. Their opening-round games against Korea were getting Super Bowl-type ratings. The Caribbean nations are obviously onboard.

                        Baseball's needed a true international tournament for years. I'd prefer it to be in the Olympics, but that's never going to happen, so I'm happy that the WBC exists.
                        Originally posted by Thrash13
                        Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
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                        DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
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                        yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                        • JBH3
                          Marvel's Finest
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 13506

                          #42
                          Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                          Originally posted by Pared
                          Guys want to be funny... look at the support for PR in Puerto Rico.

                          Compare that to the support for the US in the US.


                          Have you ever even been to PR, or that stadium for that matter?

                          I saw a reg season Bluejays/Expos gm there in 2004, and was there last summer during a cruise.

                          First, the ENTIRE island is about as big as Connecticut. San Juan is the capital and obvisouly the largest most populated city, which explains the turn out. A LOT of people live right there around that area of that ballpark.

                          Second, THERE IS NO TRAFFIC, anywhere in San Juan which would compare to the states. So to get to the game all you need is gua gua (bus) money, and you're there, which further explains the turn out. From any point in San Juan, except maybe where the Bacardi factory is (where you have to take a ferry), you can get to that stadium well under 30 minutes, well under.

                          Third, Puerto Ricans LOVE beisbol, which even futher explains the turn out IN PR. Americans "like" baseball, and LOVE football.
                          Last edited by JBH3; 03-18-2009, 01:43 PM.
                          Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                          All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                          • ZM Punk
                            We Spent Some Money!
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 6260

                            #43
                            Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                            Originally posted by Scottdau
                            I agree with this, but I say win Youk they will come.
                            Has it become this bad, that citizens will only show support for your national team if they're winning.
                            "The academic support at Ohio State, there is no way you can fail. Even if you're giving minimal effort there is no way you can fail."

                            Adolphus Washington-Ohio State Freshman

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                            • Scottdau
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 32580

                              #44
                              Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                              Originally posted by zitomulder
                              Has it become this bad, that citizens will only show support for your national team if they're winning.
                              Why do you want to watch them lose? If you have pride in your country do you want to see them get 10 run rule. Not me. But if they win I am there.

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                              • Scottdau
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 32580

                                #45
                                Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                                If the US fans thought their team could win this they would support it, but they don't want to do that becasue they know this team will not win. Especially when our best players aren't invited or don't want to play.

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