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  • bkrich83
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    • Jul 2002
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    #16
    Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

    Originally posted by Olson-for-Heisman
    No kidding.

    I can't believe someone is actually trying to justify the overwhelming coverage of 3-4 teams. Well, he's a Yankees fan, so it's perfectly believable.
    And to Yankee fan it's completely logical.
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    • ehh
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
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      #17
      Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

      Actually that's where you're wrong and the ratings, advertising and programming proves it. Do you really think ESPN would continue their baseball coverage as is if it wasn't profitable for the network? You think they'd be better off showing three minute Padre/D'Back highlights? Sure baseball purists and small market crybabies whine about how it is now but ESPN is better off doing it this way. I liked the old ESPN coverage with balance throughout the league but I can't be pissed at ESPN from a business perspective.

      Just cause more people agree with Heath doesn't make him right. What he said was true, but you can't argue with why ESPN does it.

      And Cowherd was defending CBS, not ESPN or the "mother network" as you described it, assuming you're referring to ABC.
      "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

      "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
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        #18
        Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

        If I had access to MLB Network i'd be watching it from sun up to sun down (well except when the Jays are playing) but you get my point. Also they don't edit the classic games!

        A network that covers the entire league without the bias that ESPN has is so refreshing and worthwhile that it should've been done long ago.
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        • ehh
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2003
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          #19
          Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

          Originally posted by Olson-for-Heisman
          I can't believe someone is actually trying to justify the overwhelming coverage of 3-4 teams. Well, he's a Yankees fan, so it's perfectly believable.
          I'm not trying to justify it from a fan perspective, just a business one.
          "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

          "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
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            #20
            Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

            And all the knocks about me being a Yankee fan, lol, very smart on your part. I haven't watched Baseball Tonight since the YES Network launched so why would I care? No Yankee fan watches ESPN/BT anyway, YES provides much better coverage. Makes no difference to us.
            "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

            "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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            • bkrich83
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              #21
              Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

              Originally posted by ehh
              Actually that's where you're wrong and the ratings, advertising and programming proves it. Do you really think ESPN would continue their baseball coverage as is if it wasn't profitable for the network? You think they'd be better off showing three minute Padre/D'Back highlights? Sure baseball purists and small market crybabies whine about how it is now but ESPN is better off doing it this way. I liked the old ESPN coverage with balance throughout the league but I can't be pissed at ESPN from a business perspective.

              Just cause more people agree with Heath doesn't make him right. What he said was true, but you can't argue with why ESPN does it.

              And Cowherd was defending CBS, not ESPN or the "mother network" as you described it, assuming you're referring to ABC.
              Only because ESPN has little to no competition when it comes to nightly baseball coverage.

              I think much like with the NFL with NFL Network, you'll start to see that change as MLB network gains traction.

              You think people out here give a crap about the Yankees or Red Sox?
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              • bkrich83
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                #22
                Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                Originally posted by ehh
                And all the knocks about me being a Yankee fan, lol, very smart on your part. I haven't watched Baseball Tonight since the YES Network launched so why would I care? No Yankee fan watches ESPN/BT anyway, YES provides much better coverage. Makes no difference to us.
                Whether you watch it or not, because you are a Yankee fan, and for some reason have that sense of superiority, you find it logical that club would get as much coverage as they do nationally.
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                • ehh
                  Hall Of Fame
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                  #23
                  Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                  Originally posted by bkrich83
                  I think much like with the NFL with NFL Network, you'll start to see that change as MLB network gains traction.
                  Of course it will, that's the future of all professional leagues and why ESPN is ****ed long term. The professional leagues finally realized, "Hey! We could be taking in all that revenue ESPN currently makes on our own product."

                  Those deals ESPN has with the pro leagues will continue to shrink and dwindle, it wouldn't surprise me if one day there are no live highlight shows on ESPN for MLB/NBA/NFL.
                  "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                  "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
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                    #24
                    Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                    Originally posted by bkrich83
                    Whether you watch it or not, because you are a Yankee fan, and for some reason have that sense of superiority, you find it logical that club would get as much coverage as they do nationally.
                    LOL, it has nothing to do with being a Yankee fan! You think I care that the Cowboys or Lakers get the most national attention in football and basketball? They have the biggest fan bases so why shouldn't they get the most coverage?
                    "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                    "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                    • SPTO
                      binging
                      • Feb 2003
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                      #25
                      Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                      Originally posted by ehh

                      Those deals ESPN has with the pro leagues will continue to shrink and dwindle, it wouldn't surprise me if one day there are no live highlight shows on ESPN for MLB/NBA/NFL.
                      ESPN would likely partner up with one of the leagues if it ever came to that. There's been talk off and on the last year or so that ESPN would partner with NFL-N.
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                      • fugazi
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2003
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                        #26
                        Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                        Originally posted by ehh
                        I'm not trying to justify it from a fan perspective, just a business one.
                        i am with you. what you posted was enlightening.
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                        • ehh
                          Hall Of Fame
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                          #27
                          Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                          Originally posted by SPTO
                          ESPN would likely partner up with one of the leagues if it ever came to that. There's been talk off and on the last year or so that ESPN would partner with NFL-N.
                          True, and if it comes to that it will mean that ESPN lost and the pro leagues won. It'll be a last gasp 'only option' for ESPN at that point.

                          The pro leagues would essentially be the wholesaler and ESPN would be the retailer, which to a certain extent is how it's already set up.
                          "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                          "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                          • bkrich83
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                            #28
                            Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                            Originally posted by ehh
                            LOL, it has nothing to do with being a Yankee fan! You think I care that the Cowboys or Lakers get the most national attention in football and basketball? They have the biggest fan bases so why shouldn't they get the most coverage?
                            they get the most coverage only on ESPN. Which goes to the lowest commmon denominator.

                            I am sure you being a Yankee fan has nothing to do with it.
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                            • Speedy
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                              #29
                              Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                              Originally posted by Gibson88
                              Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                              It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                              • ehh
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                                #30
                                Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                                Originally posted by bkrich83
                                they get the most coverage only on ESPN.
                                Well NO ****! ESPN is one of a kind! There is no common detonator! Jesus, is it that hard to see?

                                What other 24/7 sports network is dedicated to MULTIPLE sports? What are you comparing ESPN to? CBS/ABC/NBC? Not a 24 hour sports network and don't have national nightly highlight shows.

                                MLB/NBA/NFL Networks are only focused on their sport. There is nothing to compare it to when you say "they get the most coverage only on ESPN". There's no reason for MLB Network to be Yankee-heavy when they have all day every day to cover baseball! They aren't working with lmited time and resources like ESPN.

                                I'm sorry it's an 'out of the box' point of view for you and you're only retort is to say "You're a Yankee fan" when it's completely irrelevant to the situation.
                                "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                                "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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