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  • yvesdereuter
    Banned
    • Jun 2007
    • 1688

    #76
    Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

    Originally posted by SoxFan01605
    I see your point, and it doesn't make sense from a logical standpoint based on what sports fans would likely want.

    BUT, while the Dodgers (and Angels) both do well in attendance they are second fiddle to the Lakers (who are also huge nationally), which is part of it. The other part of it is the Dodgers have been an 80 something win team with very few players of interest (I'm speaking in general terms...not specific to baseball fans). The Dodgers get fair highlights by comparison almost nightly now. Why? They have a draw in Manny's antics.

    ESPN is technically "national" and only interested in the bigger draws from that standpoint. I just don't buy the "east coast bias" stuff as the rule (it's there for some reporters though, I agree). If it's anything, it's "front-runner bias" or "sensationalized story bias"...lol. The Red Sox were rarely covered before they started contending again. The only times they were was to run a piece on the dreaded curse drama.

    ESPN is after stories, drama, etc. They are a prime example of the sensationalized, ratings hungry, national media "coverage" of today. You seem to be basing this from the false (sadly) standpoint that ESPN cares even remotely about the sports coverage. They don't. They just want the headline grabbing story.

    Look at the Cowboys. They grabbed more coverage in an hour on ESPN than all the eastcoast teams combined for a week...lol. It was a zoo...and ESPN only jumped in the cage with the monkeys and started slinging their own crap.

    Everyone jumped on the Yankees fan, but what did he say that was so untrue? I don't believe he ever said it was right from sports standpoint (or even that he agreed with it personally), only that it made sense for what they do. Think of ESPN and national outlets like it as mirrors to our nation's soul...lol...it ain't pretty.

    Plus, the other point he made about us holy recievers of the bias is spot on. I'm a Red Sox fan and can't stomach ESPN most times...and half of their staff are considered Sox supporters...lol. On a side note, I miss my NESN.

    It sucks, it is anti-intellectual (as someone mentioned), and completely useless to most diehard sportsfans, but, the main audience (casual observers, etc) of ESPN would probably lose interest if the major stories (whether real or senstationalized) aren't covered. ESPN is just taking advantage of the main base's interest in front runners and train wrecks (the two primary things most national media outlets focus on...not exclusive to sports and ESPN either).

    Most sports diehards I know only view ESPN out of boredom or for a glance at the ticker. We all know the deal with them. For the real news, you've gotta rely on your local coverage.

    Thankfully (I know I was long winded...but it's early) we do have MLB Network which is a savior for me. ESPN is like Foxnews, MSNBC, etc. Out to grab their piece of the ratings through sensationalized media.

    Unfortunately for you Padres fans...you aren't that dramatic or sensational. So go kill someone on the field during the 7th inning stretch...lol. (Or have your closer go on the show and sell out)
    What makes you so sure E!SPN is following the story and not creating or deciding the story?

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    • J0nnD0ugh
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2003
      • 16602

      #77
      Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

      It kills me when TV guys claim they show the Yanks/Sox only because that's what the nation wants. Then say the ratings for the WS are too low because those 2 aren't involved. What do you expect to happen when all you force feed the public are those 2 clubs?
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      • mgoblue678
        MVP
        • Jul 2008
        • 3371

        #78
        Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

        It is definatly there. I remember a couple of days ago they had Brandon Inge of the Tigers as a catcher on some fantasy number thing even though he is playing third base. Shows how much they follow or care about other teams besides New York and Boston.

        Not to mention last night they made a comment on Baseball Tonight about the Tigers needing Zumaya back because Rodney was only pitching "okay." The guy has only allowed one base run and hasn't allowed a run, that is better than "okay."

        I wonder if they would even cover baseball at all if Boston and New York didn't exist.
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        • chilli311
          Fear the Friar
          • Feb 2008
          • 2475

          #79
          Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

          Originally posted by mgoblue678
          It is definatly there. I remember a couple of days ago they had Brandon Inge of the Tigers as a catcher on some fantasy number thing even though he is playing third base. Shows how much they follow or care about other teams besides New York and Boston.

          Not to mention last night they made a comment on Baseball Tonight about the Tigers needing Zumaya back because Rodney was only pitching "okay." The guy has only allowed one base run and hasn't allowed a run, that is better than "okay."

          I wonder if they would even cover baseball at all if Boston and New York didn't exist.
          Inge is eligible as a catcher though. He is also eligible at 3B and outfield. Because of that, his fantasy value at catcher is high because of two reasons. 1) Catcher is a weak position outside of a handful of players, and 2) He can fill the catcher's slot while playing elsewhere, giving you an edge.

          I agree about Rodney though. He's been lights out so far.
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          • choadler
            MVP
            • Feb 2004
            • 2001

            #80
            Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

            Originally posted by bkrich83
            I see your point. But they are ESPN, they are really the only game in town. Their going to get a national audience no matter what they show. There's no way you can convince me, that if they start providing balanced coverage all of a sudden their numbers are going to drop.
            Yeah, I agree. Balancing it more shouldn't hurt them at all, but obviously someone over there doesn't feel that way...lol. I watch MLB network now because of it. Their coverage is superb. Just watching some stuff they did on Chien Ming Wang and his struggles was really cool. They were examining his windup and how it had changed from last year. I have found my baseball show and won't be returning to Baseball tonight. Now Cox needs to get on the ball and give the HD feed.

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            • fugazi
              MVP
              • Apr 2003
              • 3749

              #81
              Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

              Back to the article-----

              Did anyone ever determine the "expletive" that Bell used?

              "That gave me the ____________."


              lol
              Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

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              • BatsareBugs
                LVP
                • Feb 2003
                • 12553

                #82
                Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                Originally posted by fugazi
                Back to the article-----

                Did anyone ever determine the "expletive" that Bell used?

                "That gave me the ____________."


                lol
                Let's just say it was a five letter word and rhymes with an offensive stat category.

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                • bkrich83
                  Has Been
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71582

                  #83
                  Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                  Originally posted by choadler
                  Yeah, I agree. Balancing it more shouldn't hurt them at all, but obviously someone over there doesn't feel that way...lol. I watch MLB network now because of it. Their coverage is superb. Just watching some stuff they did on Chien Ming Wang and his struggles was really cool. They were examining his windup and how it had changed from last year. I have found my baseball show and won't be returning to Baseball tonight. Now Cox needs to get on the ball and give the HD feed.
                  I completely agree. MLB Network has made ESPN obsolete imo. I watch their coverage religiously and can't express how pleased I am with their coverage.

                  DTV has it in HD.
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                  • Chip Douglass
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 12256

                    #84
                    Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                    Originally posted by fugazi
                    Back to the article-----

                    Did anyone ever determine the "expletive" that Bell used?

                    "That gave me the ____________."


                    lol
                    I can't for the life of me figure out that expletive.
                    I write things on the Internet.

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                    • Chip Douglass
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 12256

                      #85
                      Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                      Originally posted by Rag3vsW0rld
                      Let's just say it was a five letter word and rhymes with an offensive stat category.
                      I'm still drawing a blank.
                      I write things on the Internet.

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                      • snepp
                        We'll waste him too.
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 10007

                        #86
                        Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                        "That burrito gave me the _______."
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                        • Greenevol
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 618

                          #87
                          Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                          Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
                          It kills me when TV guys claim they show the Yanks/Sox only because that's what the nation wants. Then say the ratings for the WS are too low because those 2 aren't involved. What do you expect to happen when all you force feed the public are those 2 clubs?

                          Bingo! Maybe if people had seen the Rays once or twice during the season, they might have been more apt to tune in during the series. Chicken or the egg I guess. But, if you dont think it has an effect, look at the Chicago Cubs and Atlanta Braves. Are those teams that popular because of the people from Chicago or Atlanta, or did people grow up with the games on the tube on WGN or TBS.

                          Sure, the primary goal for ESPN is to make money, and they do that by showing the teams with the largest fan bases. But being popular doesnt necessarily make it right, or any good. McDonald's sells alot of hamburgers. It's still crap.

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                          • BatsareBugs
                            LVP
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 12553

                            #88
                            Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                            Originally posted by Olson-for-Heisman
                            I'm still drawing a blank.
                            Clue #2: It helps determine batting average.

                            Don't eat the clue!

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                            • rsox
                              All Star
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 6309

                              #89
                              Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                              Originally posted by Olson-for-Heisman
                              I'm still drawing a blank.
                              It's the expletive word for poop.

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                              • Howie75
                                Commitment to Excellence
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 1992

                                #90
                                Re: Heath Bell: ESPN Bias

                                Originally posted by bkrich83
                                I completely agree. MLB Network has made ESPN obsolete imo. I watch their coverage religiously and can't express how pleased I am with their coverage.

                                DTV has it in HD.
                                You hit the nail on the head. I only watch Baseball Tonight when I'm at work (only have cable) and it's terrible.

                                And not only because of the bias, the commentators are horrible. Why on earth is Eduardo Perez on television? I don't know if it's a speech impediment or what, but the man does NOT need to be doing anything on radio or television.

                                They royally screwed up getting rid of Harold Reynolds.

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