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[o_capone]

Re: 42

It doesnt border on anything. Im not anti-Islam but I recognize that many would probably have a problem with the scenario I described. And like I said, the same principle that says this should not be allowed, is the same principle that says players are there to play and not be billboards or have advocacy forced on them. Its not far out there at all. I can see why someone would say that if they believe that causes become acceptable only if they agree with them.

how can you honestly compare forcing religion on someone with honoring someone by wearing a jersey number??

[yvesdereuter]

Re: 42

as professional atheletes it would not be great for your career to be publicly racist... i'm sure there are plenty racist who play pro sports but they keep it to themselves... so you are right they would look like a jerk, they would lose fans, they would lose endorsements... they would alienate themselves from their team and end their career... but that still does not make what the mlb is doing wrong... and as far as someone "objecting to the principle" i just don't see that happening... they are not only honoring jackie robinson, not only honoring african-americans, they are honoring the diversity of america... baseball is "america's game" and this #42 thing is just one more thing that helps rebuild america's tarnished image... this country has a pretty embarassing past, things like this will help move past those times...

No one is questioning that it wouldnt be beneficial for them to be a racist. Im not even sure your point there. They shouldnt even be in the situation where such a conflict exists. Again, MLB shouldnt be pushing this and, again, there are a couple of reasons for that.

[yvesdereuter]

Re: 42

The only reason it's being enforced is because MLB grew a brain.

For years players kept asking to wear 42 on Jackie Robinson Day. At first, it was basically a first come, first serve on-basis approval. Then more players asked and MLB just let them do it.

This year, MLB realized that so many guys want to honor Jackie by wearing the number that it would make more sense to just have every player wear it and honor Jackie country wide.

This is not politics. This is smart. It's right.

Its not really right. I mean, its right if the players want to do it. And its ok for MLB to let them do it if the players want to do it. But to require them to do it is not ok.

[yvesdereuter]

Re: 42

how can you honestly compare forcing religion on someone with honoring someone by wearing a jersey number??

Ive already explained that.

[o_capone]

Re: 42

No one is questioning that it wouldnt be beneficial for them to be a racist. Im not even sure your point there. They shouldnt even be in the situation where such a conflict exists. Again, MLB shouldnt be pushing this and, again, there are a couple of reasons for that.

you said: "But secondly, lets say they are "racist"? They shouldnt be required to wear it."

that's why i said what i said about them being racist... they are not gonna come out and say "i'm racist i'm not gonna wear that number"....

it's odd to me that someone feels so strongly opposed to this... makes me wonder....

[yvesdereuter]

Re: 42

you said: "But secondly, lets say they are "racist"? They shouldnt be required to wear it."

that's why i said what i said about them being racist... they are not gonna come out and say "i'm racist i'm not gonna wear that number"....

it's odd to me that someone feels so strongly opposed to this... makes me wonder....

That you would say this after Ive constantly described the larger principle in play is purely slanderous.

[CMH]

Re: 42

Its not really right. I mean, its right if the players want to do it. And its ok for MLB to let them do it if the players want to do it. But to require them to do it is not ok.

I think it's perfectly fine. But I realize you won't agree.

I think of it as wearing a classic uniform, alternate Sundays, whatever you might consider. It's honoring a player and what he meant to the game.

Yea, perhaps a guy feels he'll perform better in his traditional number 18. Maybe he doesn't feel that wearing 42 honors Jackie Robinson. But, the league he plays for does and it's not asking for much. It's only a number.

[JBH3]

Re: 42

The only reason it's being enforced is because MLB grew a brain.

For years players kept asking to wear 42 on Jackie Robinson Day. At first, it was basically a first come, first serve on-basis approval. Then more players asked and MLB just let them do it.

This year, MLB realized that so many guys want to honor Jackie by wearing the number that it would make more sense to just have every player wear it and honor Jackie country wide.

This is not politics. This is smart. It's right.

Thank you...and o-capone too for being voices of reason.

[yvesdereuter]

Re: 42

I think it's perfectly fine. But I realize you won't agree.

I think of it as wearing a classic uniform, alternate Sundays, whatever you might consider. It's honoring a player and what he meant to the game.

Yea, perhaps a guy feels he'll perform better in his traditional number 18. Maybe he doesn't feel that wearing 42 honors Jackie Robinson. But, the league he plays for does and it's not asking for much. It's only a number.

Obviously its not.

[o_capone]

Re: 42

That you would say this after Ive constantly described the larger principle in play is purely slanderous.

what exactly did i say that is slanderous? that it's odd to me?

[yvesdereuter]

Re: 42

what exactly did i say that is slanderous? that it's odd to me?

You made an accusation.

[o_capone]

Re: 42

You made an accusation.

did i? quote this accusation i made...

[snepp]

Re: 42

LOL @ what this thread has degenerated to.

[yvesdereuter]

Re: 42

LOL @ what this thread has degenerated to.

I agree. But when you dont leg hump the majority it usually doesnt get better when you re-explain something.

[Crown42Royal]

Re: 42

Look at what I started.