How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

**snepp** · 05-04-2003, 06:25 AM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

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Steroids can't make you hit a 95mph fast ball.

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Heel, I hate to disagree, but roids can definately help your bat speed, giving you a few extra miliseconds that let you see the ball longer.

You can't tell me that roids don't help your hitting. Sorry but you are totally wrong on this one.

I'm not saying that he is neccesarily on roids, but if he were it would definately help.

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No, you are wrong, sorry. Roids will NOT help you hit a fastball, or any pitch for that matter. If you have ever played baseball at any level you would already know this....

The best hitters in baseball history have never used any type of "roid", and more than likely never used any type of supplement.

Tony Gwynn compiled a .338 batting average for his career. He will be remembered as one of the greatest pure hitters ever. I guarantee you he didn't use any roids. Ted Williams didn't use roids, Mickey Mantle didn't use them, Hank Aaron didn't, Cal Ripken didn't, Kirby Puckett didn't (.318 career avg), and Wade Boggs didn't.....how many do you want me to mention?

Jose Canseco used roids and they didn't do him a whole lot of good, he was a better player before he turned into a muscle-bound bohemoth. He hit for @$%& for most of his career. Ken Caminiti also did pidly-poo for most of his career with the exception of a few seasons.

Your argument is about null and void at this point.

good luck

**grismosw** · 05-04-2003, 08:07 AM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

Wasn't he a 40-40 guy with Pittsburgh one year?

**grismosw** · 05-04-2003, 08:07 AM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

Wasn't he a 40-40 guy with Pittsburgh one year?

**ghm125** · 05-04-2003, 08:11 AM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

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hes been great, he didnt just become great out of nowhere.

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this is what people dont undestand.... they just dont like him as a person.....but he has been great for some time now.....

**ghm125** · 05-04-2003, 08:11 AM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

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hes been great, he didnt just become great out of nowhere.

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this is what people dont undestand.... they just dont like him as a person.....but he has been great for some time now.....

**MuffinMcFluffin** · 05-04-2003, 01:48 PM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

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Wasn't he a 40-40 guy with Pittsburgh one year?

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No, I think he did it in '96 (42 HRs and 46 SBs or something).

**MuffinMcFluffin** · 05-04-2003, 01:48 PM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

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Wasn't he a 40-40 guy with Pittsburgh one year?

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No, I think he did it in '96 (42 HRs and 46 SBs or something).

**MSRoble33** · 05-04-2003, 02:54 PM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

He was really good here in Pittsburgh, his only woes in production came during the playoffs. He's always been good, but he's an incredibly hard worker which is what his talent today is contributed to.

**MSRoble33** · 05-04-2003, 02:54 PM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

He was really good here in Pittsburgh, his only woes in production came during the playoffs. He's always been good, but he's an incredibly hard worker which is what his talent today is contributed to.

**Motown** · 05-04-2003, 03:21 PM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

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He is not using steroids. He is on a medication known as Creatine. It will not improve your swing, speed, throwing arm, etc. It will help you perform better while working out. It's endurance medicine. Bonds has one of the best swings in baseball, so without Creatine he will be just as good... so yeah.

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That's BULL [censored]!!! He's definitely "Juicin'"
Swollen face!!
Baldness!!
Extremely veiny arms!!
Sosa's juicin' also!!!

**Motown** · 05-04-2003, 03:21 PM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

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He is not using steroids. He is on a medication known as Creatine. It will not improve your swing, speed, throwing arm, etc. It will help you perform better while working out. It's endurance medicine. Bonds has one of the best swings in baseball, so without Creatine he will be just as good... so yeah.

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That's BULL [censored]!!! He's definitely "Juicin'"
Swollen face!!
Baldness!!
Extremely veiny arms!!
Sosa's juicin' also!!!

**GameDude** · 05-04-2003, 03:40 PM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

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That's BULL [censored]!!! He's definitely "Juicin'"
Swollen face!!
Baldness!!
Extremely veiny arms!!
Sosa's juicin' also!!!

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This is one of the silliest comments I've seen on this board.

As for the initial question, he's been great for a very long time now. They didn't proclaim him "Player of the '90's" for nothing.

**GameDude** · 05-04-2003, 03:40 PM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

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That's BULL [censored]!!! He's definitely "Juicin'"
Swollen face!!
Baldness!!
Extremely veiny arms!!
Sosa's juicin' also!!!

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This is one of the silliest comments I've seen on this board.

As for the initial question, he's been great for a very long time now. They didn't proclaim him "Player of the '90's" for nothing.

**avh00a** · 05-04-2003, 04:24 PM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

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Steroids can't make you hit a 95mph fast ball.

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Heel, I hate to disagree, but roids can definately help your bat speed, giving you a few extra miliseconds that let you see the ball longer.

You can't tell me that roids don't help your hitting. Sorry but you are totally wrong on this one.

I'm not saying that he is neccesarily on roids, but if he were it would definately help.

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No, you are wrong, sorry. Roids will NOT help you hit a fastball, or any pitch for that matter. If you have ever played baseball at any level you would already know this....

The best hitters in baseball history have never used any type of "roid", and more than likely never used any type of supplement.

Tony Gwynn compiled a .338 batting average for his career. He will be remembered as one of the greatest pure hitters ever. I guarantee you he didn't use any roids. Ted Williams didn't use roids, Mickey Mantle didn't use them, Hank Aaron didn't, Cal Ripken didn't, Kirby Puckett didn't (.318 career avg), and Wade Boggs didn't.....how many do you want me to mention?

Jose Canseco used roids and they didn't do him a whole lot of good, he was a better player before he turned into a muscle-bound bohemoth. He hit for @$%& for most of his career. Ken Caminiti also did pidly-poo for most of his career with the exception of a few seasons.

Your argument is about null and void at this point.

good luck

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What the heck are you talking about? Did you read what i said? I didn't say that you can't hit without roids... i said that taking roids makes you stronger and gives you better bat speed. That allows longer to watch pitches and if you do make contact you can hit it further.

Actually i did play baseball in high school and i was pretty darn good thanks. One thing that is common sense is that if you are stronger (by using roids or not) you can improve your hitting.

And just because those other great hitters didn't use them, doesn't mean that Barry has or hasn't.

Sorry bud but don't attack an argument that is completely logical. What you were saying is comparable to saying that performance enhancers don't help sprinters, just because guys like Jesse Owens weren't juicing and were really fast.

Sorry, i don't get too hot very often on these boards but YOU are completely wrong.

**avh00a** · 05-04-2003, 04:24 PM

Re: How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

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Steroids can't make you hit a 95mph fast ball.

<hr /></blockquote>

Heel, I hate to disagree, but roids can definately help your bat speed, giving you a few extra miliseconds that let you see the ball longer.

You can't tell me that roids don't help your hitting. Sorry but you are totally wrong on this one.

I'm not saying that he is neccesarily on roids, but if he were it would definately help.

<hr /></blockquote>

No, you are wrong, sorry. Roids will NOT help you hit a fastball, or any pitch for that matter. If you have ever played baseball at any level you would already know this....

The best hitters in baseball history have never used any type of "roid", and more than likely never used any type of supplement.

Tony Gwynn compiled a .338 batting average for his career. He will be remembered as one of the greatest pure hitters ever. I guarantee you he didn't use any roids. Ted Williams didn't use roids, Mickey Mantle didn't use them, Hank Aaron didn't, Cal Ripken didn't, Kirby Puckett didn't (.318 career avg), and Wade Boggs didn't.....how many do you want me to mention?

Jose Canseco used roids and they didn't do him a whole lot of good, he was a better player before he turned into a muscle-bound bohemoth. He hit for @$%& for most of his career. Ken Caminiti also did pidly-poo for most of his career with the exception of a few seasons.

Your argument is about null and void at this point.

good luck

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What the heck are you talking about? Did you read what i said? I didn't say that you can't hit without roids... i said that taking roids makes you stronger and gives you better bat speed. That allows longer to watch pitches and if you do make contact you can hit it further.

Actually i did play baseball in high school and i was pretty darn good thanks. One thing that is common sense is that if you are stronger (by using roids or not) you can improve your hitting.

And just because those other great hitters didn't use them, doesn't mean that Barry has or hasn't.

Sorry bud but don't attack an argument that is completely logical. What you were saying is comparable to saying that performance enhancers don't help sprinters, just because guys like Jesse Owens weren't juicing and were really fast.

Sorry, i don't get too hot very often on these boards but YOU are completely wrong.

How did Barry Bonds get so great so fast?

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