All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

[Cebby]

Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

2, Andre Dawson, Ryne Sandberg, Ozzie Smith, Tony Gwynn, Joe Carter, Fred McGriff, Cal Ripken, Rickey Henderson(?), Mike Schmidt...

Yeah, you could get a great team, and i think they would whoop ***.

Compared to the steroid team, those hitters are not good. I don't think any are better than their competition on the All Steroids team.

[dave374]

Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

Nonsense. I haven't heard of anyone in the game who thinks that Griffey ever used steroids.

I don't know why Griffey always gets a free pass in this conversation.
While I also have my doubts he did them, I don't think that's a 100% certainty when you look at his era as a whole.
The nagging injuries also could make one wonder about steroid use ... though, again, I tend to believe Griffey was clean.

But I'm not betting my mortgage on it.

[daflyboys]

Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

The all-clean team wins, but the all-roids team gets pissed and beats their heads in with bats in an uncontrollable rage.

[shnuskis]

Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

i think an all clean team could do a lot of damage.

1, i don't think you can find, say, 5 quality pitchers (starters and relievers) that were juicing.

2, Andre Dawson, Ryne Sandberg, Ozzie Smith, Tony Gwynn, Joe Carter, Fred McGriff, Cal Ripken, Rickey Henderson(?), Mike Schmidt...

Yeah, you could get a great team, and i think they would whoop ***.

The problem is you have to go back before steroids to come up with an all-clean team. Of course they were all taking speed from the candy dishes in the club house. Oh, and Mike Schmidt said he would have taken steroids if they were available when he was playing.

Personally I would have went back further and gotten Willie Mays, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth,...etc.

[wwharton]

Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

The problem is you have to go back before steroids to come up with an all-clean team. Of course they were all taking speed from the candy dishes in the club house. Oh, and Mike Schmidt said he would have taken steroids if they were available when he was playing.

Personally I would have went back further and gotten Willie Mays, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth,...etc.

And we have no idea what THEY were taking. That's just it. Hell, even normal people are encouraged to take supplements to live a healthier life. Anything an athlete takes is done with the intent of being "performance enhancing", it's just what's legal and what's not.