Roy Halladay on the block?

[Speedy]

Re: Roy Halladay on the block?

Only way he goes is for Tommy Hanson, Jason Heyward, and Jair Jurrjens.

Don't even joke about that.

[Vince]

Re: Roy Halladay on the block?

JP is a piece of crap GM...

If Halladay goes I'm boycotting the team until that moron of a GM is fired.

Roy, Romero, Lind and Hill are the only reason to watch Jays games.

Roy has been the heart and soul of this team for nearly the past decade. While he deserves to make the postseason, I feel he should not be traded, at least with JP running the show because he will for sure screw up our rebuilding plans.

He gave Rio 60 million and Wells 130 million. Everyone and their grandmothers was saying, mostly for Wells, that he didn't deserve that money. Now we are stuck with his horrific salary and pathetic numbers.

end rant.

[Vince]

Re: Roy Halladay on the block?

The Nats could have Grady Sizemore, Brandon Phillips and Cliff Lee all on the current roster along with Zimmerman and Dunn.

I'm gonna go punch a wall.

LOL, Omar Minaya had to do something those last two years in Montreal to try to make the playoffs and keep the team there....

[Ewing]

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LOL, Omar Minaya had to do something those last two years in Montreal to try to make the playoffs and keep the team there....

I know. MLB told the front office the franchise was going to contracted, so Minaya and company did as much as they could to make the postseason, which meant trading away prospects.

[CoRruPt-]

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This whole situation is overblown, some writer interviews JP and starts up a storm on the web about how Halladay is "on the block". Like Ruffy said it's a GM's job to *listen* but JP isn't actively shopping Doc or whatever.

I think even JP isn't going to pull a deal where you're getting back spare parts like Minny did for Santana. It's not like we have to desperately dump Halladay this season, he's still signed through to 2010 so lots of time between now and then.

[kujoking7]

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I think the Dodgers have a decent chance at Doc.

1) Because they have the young talent to offer to the jays. They could give eithier and replace him with pierre in the OF (we all saw how good pierre was this year when manny was out)

These are just the top 10 prospects they have

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090319&content_id=4029556&vkey=news_la&fext=.jsp&c_id=la

2) Also, I think coletti is smart enough to try to deal to get another pitcher. Kuroda is not doing so well and the back end of the rotation. Right now, they have a 4-man roto (billingsly, kershaw, wolf, kuroda) and they possible can put in a couple of guys (james mcdonald, eric milton).

3) Plus the big thing that you guys are talking about is Jason Schmidt. He signed a 3 year deal in 2006, worth $47 million. This is his last year of his contract, so if the Dodgers can deal for Halladay, they can dump Schmidt at the end of the year to free up cap room, because Halladay will get $15 mil for the next two years.

The Dodgers have the young talent and they seem like the right people to get roy in the current circumstance of their rotation and Coletti has proved himself as a GM in the recent years, by proving he can get stars for almost nothing (manny).

[SPTO]

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JP is a piece of crap GM...

If Halladay goes I'm boycotting the team until that moron of a GM is fired.

Roy has been the heart and soul of this team for nearly the past decade. While he deserves to make the postseason, I feel he should not be traded, at least with JP running the show because he will for sure screw up our rebuilding plans.

I'm quoting the parts of your post that i'm responding to, btw I agree with most of your rant.

Anyways JP is a horrible GM for sure at least on the major league level. He's actually a much better amateur scout as the Jays do have some great talent percolating in the minor leagues and such. Maybe when he's finally let go the Jays will offer him a job in the scouting department.

I will also boycott the team if Roy is traded for crap but we can take solace in the fact that Paul Beeston has veto power and will likely have to see the trade proposal before anything is signed off. Beeston is a smart guy and knows his baseball. I doubt he'd give Roy away for a bag of crap.

[steelcurtain311]

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I don't see them dealing Roy for crap. After the horrendous return the Twins got for Johan, I don't see that happening again.

All I think they're doing is baiting to see if anyone will throw the farm and then some at them to get Roy. If someone will, they'll do it. If someone won't, forget it. It's just to see what the market for him would be like.

[goh]

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Lowrie + Bucholz or Lester + 2 prospects.

[rsox]

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Lowrie + Bucholz or Lester + 2 prospects.

Nice scenerio but if J.P. wants to keep his job he will ignore any and all calls from Theo Epstein and Brian Cashman.

[rsox]

Re: Roy Halladay on the block?

This whole situation is overblown, some writer interviews JP and starts up a storm on the web about how Halladay is "on the block". Like Ruffy said it's a GM's job to *listen* but JP isn't actively shopping Doc or whatever.

I think even JP isn't going to pull a deal where you're getting back spare parts like Minny did for Santana. It's not like we have to desperately dump Halladay this season, he's still signed through to 2010 so lots of time between now and then.

Sometime within the next 12 months the Blue Jays will "have to desperately dump Halladay". It becomes a matter of can the Jays get more for him now or over the winter or take the chance and hope he stays healthy and try again at the deadline next year.

I don't think anyone will argue that the Twins have not really gotten anything from the playes they got for Santana, they probably did't even get the best package they could have gotten for him. If say the Phillies are willing to give up Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald, and either J.A. Happ, Antonio Bastardo or Andrew Carpenter. Or even the Brewers giving up Manny Parra, Alcides Escobar, and a Matt Gamel or Jeremy Jeffress or someone else then the Jays would have to seriousley consider it.

Though like i said in another thread if J.P. wants to keep his job he should probably ignore ny and all calls from Theo Epstein and Brian Cashman because trading Halladay to either the Red Sox or the Yankees can only come back to bite him in the a** bigtime.

[SPTO]

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Apparently the Phillies are interested in Roy. I didn't get to hear the interview but that's the word from Philly.

[NYJets]

Re: Roy Halladay on the block?

This whole situation is overblown, some writer interviews JP and starts up a storm on the web about how Halladay is "on the block". Like Ruffy said it's a GM's job to *listen* but JP isn't actively shopping Doc or whatever.

I think it's more than that. He's not going to say, "yea, we want him out of here by the deadline," and lose any leverage he has. He's trying to get the market for Halladay going.

I don't think they'll ever get completely taken like the Twins did for Santana, because the Jays have shown they will spend money, so they will never look quite as desperate to trade him as the Twins did with Santana. But his value is probably highest right now. Still a year and a half on his contract, and over 2/3 of the league is still in the race for a playoff spot. I think it would be surprising if he doesn't get traded this season.

Phillies seem like the perfect fit. They have the pieces to get him, the need, the money, and it gets him out of the AL.

[Perceptor]

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I would hate to see Roy leave although I hate the way that JP has destroyed this team with his poor management...

Having said that, maybe JP moves Roy and gets some excellent young players that Cito and his boys can develop...then can JP and get a GM who actually knows what they are doing

[pfunk880]

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Or even the Brewers giving up Manny Parra, Alcides Escobar, and a Matt Gamel or Jeremy Jeffress or someone else then the Jays would have to seriousley consider it.

Parra has sucked it up this year, and Jeffress can't stay away from the drugs. I'd gladly trade those two.