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  • ChicagoSparty
    MVP
    • Jun 2003
    • 1358

    #1

    Well, I made my decision

    It took me until late June, and not that anyone cares, but. . . .

    After fairly extensively playing every baseball game except Inside Pitch, WSB is the best.

    IMO, with timed (non-cursor) hitting, and using the following settings, this game does the most important things, collectively, substantially better than the competition.

    CPU pitcher effectiveness: 92
    CPU hitting: 12
    Strike eye: 40
    Ball eye: 85

    Throw strikes: 1
    Stealing: 100

    Errors: normal
    Pitch speed: Very fast
    Pitch cursor: off
    Vibration: off
    Variable pitching: Medium

    Also, I'm not sure if it matters, but I also have it set on:

    All-Star
    Batting cursor: Very small

    The above sliders, IMO, give the most realistic baseball experience, and produce numbers that fairly replicate what one could expect to see at the Major League level.

    The timed hitting option more accurately replicates the hitting experience. The disjunctive cursor hitting, which fprces you to move a cursor with one hand while hitting with the other, doesn't work. That's not the way hitting works. Hitting is a fluid function, which does not translate into moving cursors. If you've played baseball, I think you'll understand what I am saying. Short of actually being able to swing the bat, timed hitting is the only way to reflect the experience of hitting.

    Also, the ball physics are good "at the plate." By that, I mean this: I know the ball floats sometimes once it is hit, but at the plate, outside pitches are often hit to right field, or hit weakly to the left side (for a right handed hitter), and inside pitches the opposite. For some reason, and I am not sure what it is, you actually get the feeling of "reaching" for the outside pitch, and pulling the inside one.

    Foul balls, essential to baseball, are also accurately reflected. "Nubbers" off the end of the bat come off as such, and if you swing a fraction early or late, the ball is going into the LF/RF stands, respectively. Because a somewhat early/late swing results in a foul ball rather than a swing-and-miss strike, you get the feeling of "staying alive" at the plate, and--most importantly--pitch counts end up fairly realistic.

    Finally, the pitch speeds are done very well. You have to "look" fastball, or you'll have no chance. But, it's reasonably possible to read the pitch, and you can still adjust to the offspeed if need be.

    There are problems, most notably with the size of the massive strike zone, the oft-cited "stickball" bats, the size of the infield and positioning of the players, the ease of stealing bases (which can be taken care of by raising catchers' throwing ratings), and obviously, some faulty AI in some situations.

    However, in toto, I think the game is the closest thing to real baseball that we have.

    Quit making your stupid YouTube videos and start playing the game.
  • Maestro23
    Rookie
    • Feb 2003
    • 140

    #2
    Re: Well, I made my decision

    Glad to see another WSB2k3 disciple. Judging by your nickname I take it u are from the Windy City. Cubs or Sox?

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    • Maestro23
      Rookie
      • Feb 2003
      • 140

      #3
      Re: Well, I made my decision

      Glad to see another WSB2k3 disciple. Judging by your nickname I take it u are from the Windy City. Cubs or Sox?

      Comment

      • Maestro23
        Rookie
        • Feb 2003
        • 140

        #4
        Re: Well, I made my decision

        Glad to see another WSB2k3 disciple. Judging by your nickname I take it u are from the Windy City. Cubs or Sox?

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        • avh00a
          Pro
          • Aug 2002
          • 761

          #5
          Re: Well, I made my decision

          I'm glad you're happy with your decision. I personally prefer ASB, but for each his own.

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          • avh00a
            Pro
            • Aug 2002
            • 761

            #6
            Re: Well, I made my decision

            I'm glad you're happy with your decision. I personally prefer ASB, but for each his own.

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            • avh00a
              Pro
              • Aug 2002
              • 761

              #7
              Re: Well, I made my decision

              I'm glad you're happy with your decision. I personally prefer ASB, but for each his own.

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              • ChicagoSparty
                MVP
                • Jun 2003
                • 1358

                #8
                Re: Well, I made my decision

                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                Maestro23 said:
                Glad to see another WSB2k3 disciple. Judging by your nickname I take it u are from the Windy City. Cubs or Sox?

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                Cubs. Grew up in southwestern Michigan and watched them on WGN all the time, back in the day when WGN carried most of the games.
                Quit making your stupid YouTube videos and start playing the game.

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                • ChicagoSparty
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 1358

                  #9
                  Re: Well, I made my decision

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  Maestro23 said:
                  Glad to see another WSB2k3 disciple. Judging by your nickname I take it u are from the Windy City. Cubs or Sox?

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                  Cubs. Grew up in southwestern Michigan and watched them on WGN all the time, back in the day when WGN carried most of the games.
                  Quit making your stupid YouTube videos and start playing the game.

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                  • ChicagoSparty
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 1358

                    #10
                    Re: Well, I made my decision

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    Maestro23 said:
                    Glad to see another WSB2k3 disciple. Judging by your nickname I take it u are from the Windy City. Cubs or Sox?

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                    Cubs. Grew up in southwestern Michigan and watched them on WGN all the time, back in the day when WGN carried most of the games.
                    Quit making your stupid YouTube videos and start playing the game.

                    Comment

                    • ChicagoSparty
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 1358

                      #11
                      Re: Well, I made my decision

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      avh00a said:
                      I'm glad you're happy with your decision. I personally prefer ASB, but for each his own.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                      ASB is my second choice, but the pitching/batting interface needs some work, IMO. I have a feeling it will be my choice next year. No game does the field size better, and it's the only game where defensive skill really makes a difference.
                      Quit making your stupid YouTube videos and start playing the game.

                      Comment

                      • ChicagoSparty
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 1358

                        #12
                        Re: Well, I made my decision

                        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                        avh00a said:
                        I'm glad you're happy with your decision. I personally prefer ASB, but for each his own.

                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                        ASB is my second choice, but the pitching/batting interface needs some work, IMO. I have a feeling it will be my choice next year. No game does the field size better, and it's the only game where defensive skill really makes a difference.
                        Quit making your stupid YouTube videos and start playing the game.

                        Comment

                        • ChicagoSparty
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 1358

                          #13
                          Re: Well, I made my decision

                          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                          avh00a said:
                          I'm glad you're happy with your decision. I personally prefer ASB, but for each his own.

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                          ASB is my second choice, but the pitching/batting interface needs some work, IMO. I have a feeling it will be my choice next year. No game does the field size better, and it's the only game where defensive skill really makes a difference.
                          Quit making your stupid YouTube videos and start playing the game.

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                          • GCrusher23
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 1170

                            #14
                            Re: Well, I made my decision

                            If they would just making pitching even remotely realistic I would have no bought MVP, ASB, and High Heat along with WSB2k3 this year. I can't believe the crap that Sega gets by with in their pitching model.


                            Worst. Pitching Model. Ever.

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                            • GCrusher23
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 1170

                              #15
                              Re: Well, I made my decision

                              If they would just making pitching even remotely realistic I would have no bought MVP, ASB, and High Heat along with WSB2k3 this year. I can't believe the crap that Sega gets by with in their pitching model.


                              Worst. Pitching Model. Ever.

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