Pirates Will Be Back

[B_rad13]

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Me thinks you got spring fever. You'll be singing a different tune 2 months from now.

Your being too nice, I say in 2 weeks:wink:

[B_rad13]

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The Pirates have Andrew McCutchen, Garret Jones, Kevin Hart, Paul Malholm, Ryan Doumit, etc. All good young players who can do it all, it would be foolish to say we WON'T be back

Pirate nation, ahoy!

And how long will these guys stay together? Same was said about Nate McClouth and look what happened, he's gone.

[BatsareBugs]

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And how long will these guys stay together? Same was said about Nate McClouth and look what happened, he's gone.

Yes, because McCutchen is a fifth-year veteran player in his arbitration years and the Pirates have a top CF prospect waiting in the wings in the minors to replace him.

The Pirates did well to trade away a good chunk of their team for younger, cheaper and probably more talented prospects, especially since they won't figure to be competitive immediately with Sanchez, McLouth, Snell, etc., players that will take up payroll or are on their arbitration years that are easily replaceable.

[rsox]

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I can't believe someone is actually excited about Paul Maholm...

[BatsareBugs]

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I can't believe someone is actually excited about Paul Maholm...

Maybe he's excited to see him traded, he's in his arbitration years so I wouldn't be surprised.

[mjb2124]

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The Orioles and Royals will be "back" before the Pirates are.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. The Pirates are finally starting to get some talent on the MLB roster and in the minors. They won't be "back" this year and probably not next year, but the year after, I expect to see some movement. They should have a nice nucleus on offense with McCutchen, Tabata, Alvarez, Sanchez and crew. My biggest concern is the rotation. I'm hoping Lincoln will be good, Bryan Morris turns up as good as the projections, Alderson will be good, Daniel McCutchen has already showed some flashes etc...

The reason I doubt the O's will be back before the Pirates is a much more difficult division. The Royals don't seem to have clear direction so I don't think they'll be back before the Pirates.

[mjb2124]

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Yes, because McCutchen is a fifth-year veteran player in his arbitration years and the Pirates have a top CF prospect waiting in the wings in the minors to replace him.

The Pirates did well to trade away a good chunk of their team for younger, cheaper and probably more talented prospects, especially since they won't figure to be competitive immediately with Sanchez, McLouth, Snell, etc., players that will take up payroll or are on their arbitration years that are easily replaceable.

Bingo. McLouth was expendable with McCutcheon in the wings. I also think McLouth was sold at his peak and will likely won't reach those numbers again. He didn't exactly do well after he was traded from the Pirates.

[ryan36]

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The Orioles or even Nationals with both see success before the Pirates do. Not with Riggleman or Trembley at the helm, but once they get fired, both teams have a chance.

[BurghFan]

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I like your optimism, but at this point I have to see it to believe it. I also have to wonder about your allegiences, your username implies that you're a Cincinnati fan.

[mjb2124]

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The Orioles or even Nationals with both see success before the Pirates do. Not with Riggleman or Trembley at the helm, but once they get fired, both teams have a chance.

I think some of you guys are underestimating the talent that lies in the Pirates org (while not great, it's getting better) or overestimating some of these other teams. Not to mention the much more difficult path the O's have to get to success than the Pirates (ie: horribly difficult division).

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thats happens before the pirates beat the yankees

[mjb2124]

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thats happens before the pirates beat the yankees

That's what they said in 1960 too. Then Maz went yard in the 9th and shocked the World.

Of course the Yankees outscored the Pirates in that World Series 55-27. It's amazing what a little bit of luck and good timing can do.

[Buckeyes_Doc]

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The Orioles or even Nationals with both see success before the Pirates do. Not with Riggleman or Trembley at the helm, but once they get fired, both teams have a chance.

No way on the O's. They play in the toughest division in baseball. The Pirates have a much better chance at seeing success before Baltimore.

[BunnyHardaway]

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No way on the O's. They play in the toughest division in baseball. The Pirates have a much better chance at seeing success before Baltimore.

LOL at no way.

1. 2008 Rays say hi
2. Not only do the Orioles have a promising young player at every position but 2B and SS, but they are capable of retaining most of them. Our 2007 payroll was nearly $100 million. I don't foresee the Pirates spending that much money. Kthxbye

[BurghFan]

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LOL at no way.

2. Not only do the Orioles have a promising young player at every position but 2B and SS, but they are capable of retaining most of them. Our 2007 payroll was nearly $100 million. I don't foresee the Pirates spending that much money. Kthxbye

That was 3 years ago. The Orioles payroll last year was only about $67.1 million. To be fair though, the Pirates payroll also dropped from $51.3 million in 07 to $48.7 million last year.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/salaries

http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1859&Itemid=41

Besides, other teams have shown that you don't necessarily need a big payroll to have success. The Rays 2008 payroll was only $51,020,720. For comparrison, the Pirates was $50,764,410

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...mlb&id=3790323