Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

**Nike Fattz** · 03-31-2010, 01:51 PM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

Originally posted by snepp

That explains everything, you're obviously in the wrong forum.

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/fantasy-baseball/

Come back when you want to discuss baseball.

I'm discussing baseball. Is Joe Maurer more valuable than Pujols, Miggy, or Fielder to their respective teams?

Mo · 03-31-2010, 01:51 PM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

Originally posted by Nike Fattz

Is Joe Mauer more valuable than Albert Pujols, Miggy, or even Fielder?

So all you wanted to know was, who to select in you draft Upton or Heyward, huh?

A GM doesn't give a damn who's a more valuable player in Fantasy land.

Mauer is better and more valuable than Miggy, and most position players

**snepp** · 03-31-2010, 01:53 PM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

Originally posted by Nike Fattz

I'm discussing baseball. Is Joe Maurer more valuable than Pujols, Miggy, or Fielder to their respective teams?

No, you're not discussing baseball, it's obvious you're discussing fantasy baseball. They are not the same thing.

Pujols, no. Cabrera and Fielder, easily a yes.

**WazzuRC** · 03-31-2010, 02:03 PM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

LOL, using Fantasy Baseball as an argument to the value of someone.

**Nike Fattz** · 03-31-2010, 02:04 PM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

Originally posted by snepp

No, you're not discussing baseball, it's obvious you're discussing fantasy baseball. They are not the same thing.

Pujols, no. Cabrera and Fielder, easily a yes.

I am discussing baseball, I made a single reference to fantasy in regards to value based on position scarcity, which is basically the only place player value based on position scarcity matters. But you continue to tell me what I'm talking about if you wish.

Easily? No. Off the field issues aside, Cabrera is phenomenal. Brings an extremely high average with plus power, and a great OBS and OPS. With that said, Mauer may be more valuable, but it isn't because of his position, it's because he's an extremely talented player. Regardless of what position he played he's be held in the same esteem.

**Nike Fattz** · 03-31-2010, 02:06 PM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

Originally posted by miget33

So all you wanted to know was, who to select in you draft Upton or Heyward, huh?

A GM doesn't give a damn who's a more valuable player in Fantasy land.

Mauer is better and more valuable than Miggy, and most position players

No, because that answer is obvious.

Is that because he's a catcher, or is that because he's a phenomenal player?

**ryan36** · 03-31-2010, 02:26 PM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

Joe Mauer leads the damn league in batting average. JJ, I was just riling you up about Wieters. Can they throw runners out? A good hitting catcher with a weak arm, is still not going to get ran on THAT often... really the more important thing for a catcher is blocking balls, in my opinion. Unless your Matt LeCroy.

That being said, I still think upton Strikes out a lot. And can't wait to see Heyward. If I were a GM , I'd take Upton-we know what he can do.

If I were the Orioles I'd move Wieters and let him switch hit and hit 40 bombs a year from 1B or DH.

I don't think Mauer would be the same thing, because he's a contact hitter, moreso than straight power. That being said he hit a career high in HR's last year. I'd take Mauer over Wieters, and Upton over Heyward if I were God of Baseball .

**BunnyHardaway** · 03-31-2010, 02:37 PM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

Originally posted by pitchingcoach36

Joe Mauer leads the damn league in batting average. JJ, I was just riling you up about Wieters. Can they throw runners out? A good hitting catcher with a weak arm, is still not going to get ran on THAT often... really the more important thing for a catcher is blocking balls, in my opinion. Unless your Matt LeCroy.

That being said, I still think upton Strikes out a lot. And can't wait to see Heyward. If I were a GM , I'd take Upton-we know what he can do.

If I were the Orioles I'd move Wieters and let him switch hit and hit 40 bombs a year from 1B or DH.

I don't think Mauer would be the same thing, because he's a contact hitter, moreso than straight power. That being said he hit a career high in HR's last year. I'd take Mauer over Wieters, and Upton over Heyward if I were God of Baseball .

Wieters was a closer at Georgia Tech and was clocked throwing 96 MPH and also caught Carl Crawford stealing twice in one game, so I don't think his arm will be an issue, and his defense in general isn't that bad either.

**JBH3** · 03-31-2010, 03:01 PM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

Originally posted by Nike Fattz

We'll use Joe Mauer as an example. One of the best players in the league bar none, yet he's arguably not even worth a first round pick according to most fantasy experts, and even if he is he tends to be drafted towards the middle or end of the round. Who's number one? Albert Pujols, and he plays the deepest position in baseball, with 2 or 3 other first round picks.

He's not an everyday player. He can DH but sees less ABs than a Pujols or the other players you mentioned.

Originally posted by Nike Fattz

I'm discussing baseball. Is Joe Maurer more valuable than Pujols, Miggy, or Fielder to their respective teams?

Like Snepp said...more valuable than Pujols. No. The rest. Yezzir.

**DTX3** · 03-31-2010, 04:17 PM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

Neither.

Spoiler

**Sportsforever** · 03-31-2010, 08:55 PM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

Originally posted by JJLinn

Unfair argument considering Upton was drafted 2 years before Switch Hitting Jesus was. Wieters could've played in the minors in 2007 but didn't because his contract negotiations went until the last possible moment it could have.

Uh, no, thanks for playing. I started this thread:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ebut-ever.html

So I would appreciate it if you didn't try to make me look bad.

Wasn't trying to make you look bad...just asking. In fact, I actually found the thread:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...cussion-3.html

**BunnyHardaway** · 03-31-2010, 09:16 PM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

Originally posted by Sportsforever

Wasn't trying to make you look bad...just asking. In fact, I actually found the thread:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...cussion-3.html

Forgot about that

As I said in that thread, as an Orioles fan I'm quick to reactionary thoughts when our team's savior is disappointing.

**ryan36** · 03-31-2010, 10:48 PM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

LOL, good ol' JJ!

It's too bad SHJ wasn't named Peter. I'd root for Peter Wieters.

**BatsareBugs** · 04-01-2010, 12:29 AM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

I think Baseball's next phenom is going to be Justin Upton. He's been in the league for a couple of seasons and hit .300 while putting together a solid 20/20 season. I can easily see this guy hitting .300 against this year and bumping that home run number to the 30s. Won't be too long before we see him muster a 30/30 season.

As for Jason Heyward, he'll have his **** to shine in a couple of years.

Edit: I should've posted this before to***.

**CMH** · 04-02-2010, 06:40 AM

Re: Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

I liked this thread better when it was about Upton and Heyward and not some other random baseball player that no one was trying to discuss in this thread.

Too bad that only lasted two posts. Thanks guys.

Baseballs Next Phenom: Justin Upton or Jason Heyward?

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