May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

[snepp]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

Worst call in baseball history.

Unbelievably horrendous call yes, but worst in history? It's a regular season game, in June, not worthy of that label.

[mgoblue678]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

Unbelievably horrendous call yes, but worst in history? It's a regular season game, in June, not worthy of that label.

The magnitude has nothing to do with whether it was a regular season game or not.

The magnitude comes from the fact it was the last out of a perfect game, which would have been the first in Tigers history and only 21st ever.

I have no problem calling that the worst call ever or somewhere in the top 2 due to situation it occurred in. We have never seen a umpire literally cost somebody a perfect game on the last out in any game ever.

[Sportsforever]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

The magnitude has nothing to do with whether it was a regular season game or not.

The magnitude comes from the fact it was the last out of a perfect game, which would have been the first in Tigers history and only 21st ever.

I have no problem calling that the worst call ever or somewhere in the top 2 due to situation it occurred in. We have never seen a umpire literally cost somebody a perfect game on the last out in any game ever.

Definitely not the worst call in history...Don Denkinger's call in the 1985 World Series has to be considered. What if that call today wasn't for a perfect game, but instead cost your team the World Series?

[raynman]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

A team wins the World Series every year. A guy pitches a perfect game once every five (this is an average, obviously - 3 in the last year are abnormal. 20 in 100 years is the ratio I am using).

A perfect game is something special - it is one team at their best for 27 straight outs. Galarragga will never throw another perfect game, whereas the Tigers will win the World Series again.

[Sportsforever]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

A team wins the World Series every year. A guy pitches a perfect game once every five (this is an average, obviously - 3 in the last year are abnormal. 20 in 100 years is the ratio I am using).

A perfect game is something special - it is one team at their best for 27 straight outs. Galarragga will never throw another perfect game, whereas the Tigers will win the World Series again.

When these teams start the season in Spring Training, not one of them sets the goal as "let's throw a perfect game". The goal is to win the WS. I would not trade my team's WS wins for a perfect game at all.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

The Denkinger call had to have been the worst in baseball history (at least that we've seen, or is publicized, or whatever).....but at the end of the day, even then, there was game to be played.

The difference here is that it was the final out. They get that call right and it's DONE.

[mgoblue678]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

The Denkinger call had to have been the worst in baseball history (at least that we've seen, or is publicized, or whatever).....but at the end of the day, even then, there was game to be played.

The difference here is that it was the final out. They get that call right and it's DONE.

Exactly, the two are different in that the team who got screwed by the call Denkinger made still had a chance in not only that game, but the next game of that series. Where as here it was the final out and there was no chance for Galarraga to get the perfect game back after that was called.

That is why I said top 2 at least, along with the Denkinger call.

They both weren't even close plays at all. One happened in World Series the other happened on the final out of a perfect game. They both are pretty equal IMO, but in different ways. Obviously people can disagree with that, but that is how I look at it.

[Sportsforever]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

The Denkinger call had to have been the worst in baseball history (at least that we've seen, or is publicized, or whatever).....but at the end of the day, even then, there was game to be played.

The difference here is that it was the final out. They get that call right and it's DONE.

The Denkinger call would have been the final out.

[JBH3]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

The Phillies continue their descension into the quagmire.

[55]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

The Denkinger call would have been the final out.

No it wouldn't have. Jorge Orta actually led off the ninth inning.

Whitey Herzog called on rookie reliever Todd Worrell to pitch the ninth. The first batter, Jorge Orta, sent a routine bouncer to Jack Clark. He tossed to Worrell, who tagged the bag ahead of Orta, but umpire Don Denkinger called Orta safe. Every replay angle indicated that Orta was indeed out, and a lengthy argument ensued on the field. Despite multiple protests by Herzog, Worrell, Clark, and Herr, Denkinger would not reverse his initial call, and the runner remained at first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_World_Series

Plus, it happened in game 6 anyway. The Cardinals still had game 7 to close it out.

[Sportsforever]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

No it wouldn't have. Jorge Orta actually led off the ninth inning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_World_Series

Plus, it happened in game 6 anyway. The Cardinals still had game 7 to close it out.

Wow...I checked retrosheet and you're right. I don't know why I remembered this as the possible last out.

[Bamafan3723]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

Big 4 game series between the Braves and Dodgers starting tonight.

[SPTO]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

The Jays.....Man they gotta pick it up against NYY this weekend or their season is gonna go down the crapper

[snepp]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

The Jays.....Man they gotta pick it up against NYY this weekend or their season is gonna go down the crapper

I just took a peak at their upcoming schedule.....brrrrrrrrrrutal.

Team W L %
NYY 33 20 0.623
TB 36 18 0.667
COL 28 25 0.528
SD 32 21 0.604
SF 28 24 0.538
STL 31 23 0.574
PHI 28 24 0.538
CLE 19 32 0.373
NYY 33 20 0.623
MIN 31 22 0.585
BOS 31 23 0.574
Total 330 252 0.567

[55]

Re: May 31st - June 6th MLB Discussion (week 9)

I just took a peak at their upcoming schedule.....brrrrrrrrrrutal.

Team W L %
NYY 33 20 0.623
TB 36 18 0.667
COL 28 25 0.528
SD 32 21 0.604
SF 28 24 0.538
STL 31 23 0.574
PHI 28 24 0.538
CLE 19 32 0.373
NYY 33 20 0.623
MIN 31 22 0.585
BOS 31 23 0.574
Total 330 252 0.567

Wow, that is nuts. But then again, pretty much every AL East team this year is bound to have a stretch like that at some point.