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  • yankeesgiants
    I Drink Like A Champion!!
    • Feb 2007
    • 2477

    #1

    D'Backs fire A.J Hinch & Josh Byrnes

    The Diamondbacks have fired general manager Josh Byrnes and manager A.J. Hinch, the team announced Thursday night. Arizona named Jerry Dipoto interim general manager and Kirk Gibson interim manager for the remainder of the season.
    I dont remember there names but they were allot of fun....
  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203

    #2
    Re: D'Backs fire A.J Hich & Josh Byrnes

    Had to happen. Nothing good was happening in that organization from a leadership perspective.
    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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    • Tovarich
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2008
      • 10884

      #3
      Re: D'Backs fire A.J Hich & Josh Byrnes

      Not a moment too soon. Hinch never had a clue what he was doing. He was a farm director, not a manager. He constantly made puzzling decisions, and is borderline incapable of showing emotion. The team generally plays the same way. Gibson is animated and will be a good motivator, good move for at least the rest of the season. Not sure how much the GM was at fault, he can't do a lot of spending in FA, so it's all about developing the minor league system, which is several levels down from what it was 5 years ago, so I guess that's the reason for him.

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      • av7
        Hall Of Fame
        • Dec 2007
        • 11408

        #4
        Re: D'Backs fire A.J Hich & Josh Byrnes

        Originally posted by YankeePride
        Had to happen. Nothing good was happening in that organization from a leadership perspective.
        Few weeks ago it sounded like Hinch was ready for it, said the players weren't responding to him at all.
        Aaron
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        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #5
          Re: D'Backs fire A.J Hinch & Josh Byrnes

          Damn there's gonna be a crapload of managerial vacancies this offseason.

          Can't say I disagree with the move as the D-Backs weren't playing to their potential.
          Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

          "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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          • rsox
            All Star
            • Feb 2003
            • 6309

            #6
            Re: D'Backs fire A.J Hinch & Josh Byrnes

            Originally posted by SPTO
            Damn there's gonna be a crapload of managerial vacancies this offseason.
            Marlins, Orioles, Diamondbacks, Braves, and Blue Jays for sure.

            Dodgers, Cubs, Mets, Rangers, Cardinals, Reds, and Brewers all possible as well.

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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #7
              Re: D'Backs fire A.J Hich & Josh Byrnes

              Originally posted by avrbas
              Few weeks ago it sounded like Hinch was ready for it, said the players weren't responding to him at all.
              Eek, not a good indication that you are the man for the job.

              If the players aren't listening, then things have to change. Hinch seems like a good guy and I'm sure he'll find a job another job in baseball, but I doubt he'll be a manager again anytime soon.
              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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              • yankeesgiants
                I Drink Like A Champion!!
                • Feb 2007
                • 2477

                #8
                Re: D'Backs fire A.J Hinch & Josh Byrnes

                I was hoping Peter Woodfork would get the GM gig.
                I dont remember there names but they were allot of fun....

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                • KOP
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 106

                  #9
                  Re: D'Backs fire A.J Hinch & Josh Byrnes

                  Maybe its just me but awesome that Gibson got it. Regardless, shame two men lost their job despite the situation but still this D'Backs team was going absolutely nowehre with Hinch behind the helm.

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                  • rsox
                    All Star
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 6309

                    #10
                    Re: D'Backs fire A.J Hinch & Josh Byrnes

                    Hinch never should have had the job, D'backs ownership was not too thrilled with the idea of Hinch as manager but Josh Byrnes sold it and they let him give A.J. the job. The players were not responding to him and at many times he clearly looked like he had no idea what to do in certain situations. Byrnes knew this too, was very loyal to Hinch and ownership held him accountable since he wouldn't fire Hinch they fired them both. This is where all of the overblown statistical data and charts and sabremetrics and all the nonsense are starting to ruin the game. 10-15 years ago Hinch would have never in a million years been considered for a big league manager job without having a single day of coaching experience at any level. The new breed of GM fresh out of business school without having ever set foot on the diamond in highschool isn't helping matters either.
                    It will be interesting to see what direction the club gos in from here.

                    There is already buzz that the team is considering Kevin Towers to be the new GM.

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                    • BatsareBugs
                      LVP
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 12553

                      #11
                      Re: D'Backs fire A.J Hinch & Josh Byrnes

                      Originally posted by rsox
                      There is already buzz that the team is considering Kevin Towers to be the new GM.
                      I wonder if that does happen, how much KT would pursue some of the relief pitching depth here in San Diego. If there's one guy that can fix that bullpen with solid arms out of nowhere, KT is that person (and might just be what the doctor ordered for AZ's bullpen woes).

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                      • SPTO
                        binging
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 68046

                        #12
                        Re: D'Backs fire A.J Hinch & Josh Byrnes

                        Originally posted by rsox

                        There is already buzz that the team is considering Kevin Towers to be the new GM.
                        Towers would be a good fit if he's given some money to play with. I think he's a pretty good GM but some of what he's done has been undercut by ownership tightening the pursestrings at times during his SD tenure.
                        Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                        "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                        • BatsareBugs
                          LVP
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 12553

                          #13
                          Re: D'Backs fire A.J Hinch & Josh Byrnes

                          Originally posted by SPTO
                          Towers would be a good fit if he's given some money to play with. I think he's a pretty good GM but some of what he's done has been undercut by ownership tightening the pursestrings at times during his SD tenure.
                          It would be interesting, but the one year he did have money to work with (2008), he put together a questionable roster given the ballpark by trading for an old and slow Jim Edmonds to replace Mike Cameron (who was let go because he was aging), trading for Cha Seung Baek and signing Randy Wolf. Also, they did end up with Tadahito Iguchi, but the whole offseason he did look to bottom feed at second the whole time.

                          However, that was only one year and to be honest, some moves didn't pan out.

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #14
                            Re: D'Backs fire A.J Hinch & Josh Byrnes

                            Originally posted by rsox
                            This is where all of the overblown statistical data and charts and sabremetrics and all the nonsense are starting to ruin the game. 10-15 years ago Hinch would have never in a million years been considered for a big league manager job without having a single day of coaching experience at any level.
                            It's really more of an example of why Josh Byrnes wasn't a good GM. Giving a job to a guy with zero experience is a mistake no matter what philosophy you follow.

                            Sabermetric GMs aren't hiring just to hire. They have a system in place. It looks like Byrnes subscribed to the wrong one.
                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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