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  • ryan36
    7 dirty words...
    • Feb 2003
    • 10139
    #76
    Re: Jose Bautista - Rake or Fake?

    Originally posted by madhou5e
    Why does everyone have to jump to the roids issue if someone is having a good year? Can we not just let Bautista alone and congratulate him on a fantastic season? Now if he suddenly slumps next year and hits less than 20 than there will be a bit of doubt but come on, maybe he just found his sweet spot.
    Because its' reality we live in. Brady Anderson anybody? A-Rod , too. Pettite...the Mitchell list. Everyone says steroids don't help you hit homers. Yet the people on them, hit them. That's a statement that doesn't pass they eye test. If my family jewels are gonna climb back to my stomach, I'm damn well believing that I'ma hit some dingers, to make up for my lack of dingus.

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      • Chip Douglass
        Hall Of Fame
        • Dec 2005
        • 12256
        #77
        Re: Jose Bautista - Rake or Fake?

        I think it's safe to say Jose Bautista is not a fake.
        I write things on the Internet.

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          • JBH3
            Marvel's Finest
            • Jan 2007
            • 13506
            #78
            Originally posted by Chip Douglass
            I think it's safe to say Jose Bautista is not a fake.
            I was expecting to see him struggle out the gate, but he is still producing...with a flukey season like Aaronn Hill's, I thought history was repeating in Toronto.
            Originally posted by Edmund Burke
            All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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              • Kearnzo
                Banned
                • Jul 2002
                • 5963
                #79
                Re: Jose Bautista - Rake or Fake?

                Dude's a legit STUD. I love watching him hit. Definitely doesn't get cheated.

                I thought he would definitely struggle this year, but from watching him, you can tell he's similar to other historic power hitters, in that he walks a ton, and usually only gets one pitch a game to hit, and typically clobbers it. That missile he hit yesterday (I think? Maybe two days ago) was about as hard of a hit as i've seen in a long while.

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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203
                    #80
                    Re: Jose Bautista - Rake or Fake?

                    I still say he just matured as a hitter and took advantage of his strengths. I still dislike the deal Toronto gave him, but I also understand they had to do it.
                    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                      • SPTO
                        binging
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 68046
                        #81
                        Re: Jose Bautista - Rake or Fake?

                        Originally posted by CMH
                        I still say he just matured as a hitter and took advantage of his strengths. I still dislike the deal Toronto gave him, but I also understand they had to do it.
                        Interestingly Pirates scouts back in the day projected him to be a power hitter once he matured.

                        I still think a lot of credit has to go to Cito Gaston and Dwayne Murphy for helping him modify his swing and approach to the plate. If that's the only good thing to come out of Cito's 2nd tour of duty in Toronto then it's a good thing that is paying off in huge dividends.
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                          • Dog
                            aka jnes12/JNes__
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 11846
                            #82
                            Re: Jose Bautista - Rake or Fake?

                            You kidding me? I saw him eating steroids the other day.
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                              • Kobalt
                                All Star
                                • May 2010
                                • 9674
                                #83
                                Re: Jose Bautista - Rake or Fake?

                                I'm a believer

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                                  • CMH
                                    Making you famous
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 26203
                                    #84
                                    Originally posted by SPTO
                                    Interestingly Pirates scouts back in the day projected him to be a power hitter once he matured.

                                    I still think a lot of credit has to go to Cito Gaston and Dwayne Murphy for helping him modify his swing and approach to the plate. If that's the only good thing to come out of Cito's 2nd tour of duty in Toronto then it's a good thing that is paying off in huge dividends.
                                    What has Cito Gaston not done for Toronto? Guy should run for office.


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                                    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                                    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                                      • bad_philanthropy
                                        MVP
                                        • Jul 2005
                                        • 12167
                                        #85
                                        Re: Jose Bautista - Rake or Fake?

                                        I doubt Bautista's power is aided by PED's. I've worked for the Jays for the past two years and seen him around quite a few times. His body hasn't undergone any noticeable transformation —he's still a pretty average sized guy, and even in BP I've rarely seen him crushing balls to center or the opposite field. It seems to be pure technique with him. It does seem like most of his homers this year have been solo shots though. He just doesn't get pitched to with men on base.

                                        Throw him something he can turn on quickly and he'll take it out to left a good number of times. Throw him something a bit more challenging and he can get a single or a double out of it. Throw him a ball and he'll probably take it.

                                        Bautista might be leading the league in HR's by a bit wider a margin had he not missed the whole Oakland series for the birth of his child.

                                        Like others have said, it seems like Bautista's success is just him maturing as a hitter.

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                                          • yougo1000
                                            Pro
                                            • Nov 2010
                                            • 885
                                            #86
                                            Re: Jose Bautista - Rake or Fake?

                                            He's hot again.leading the league with 8 HRs.

                                            who knows this might be the year of the hitter.
                                            Check out my Baseball Rumors Blog http://baseballrumors101.blogspot.com/

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                                              • Sportsforever
                                                NL MVP
                                                • Mar 2005
                                                • 20368
                                                #87
                                                Re: Jose Bautista - Rake or Fake?

                                                Originally posted by yougo1000
                                                He's hot again.leading the league with 8 HRs.

                                                who knows this might be the year of the hitter.
                                                Nope...http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...her/index.html
                                                "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                                                  • berenjena
                                                    Pro
                                                    • Jan 2008
                                                    • 735
                                                    #88
                                                    Re: Jose Bautista - Rake or Fake?

                                                    Originally posted by Sportsforever
                                                    Nope...http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...her/index.html
                                                    Wait until the weather gets hot

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                                                      • BleacherBum2310
                                                        All Star
                                                        • Aug 2010
                                                        • 7107
                                                        #89
                                                        Re: Jose Bautista - Rake or Fake?

                                                        I'm a Believer.

                                                        I think he's just Maturing as a hitter.

                                                        1 Year is one thing but it looks like he's doing it again.
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                                                          • SPTO
                                                            binging
                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                            • 68046
                                                            #90
                                                            Re: Jose Bautista - Rake or Fake?

                                                            Originally posted by bad_philanthropy
                                                            It does seem like most of his homers this year have been solo shots though. He just doesn't get pitched to with men on base.
                                                            .
                                                            That's partly due to lack of offense from the guys ahead of him and while he doesn't get pitched to the same way with runners on base he does get at least a pitch or two to swing at. He's not quite at Barry Bonds territory LOL
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                                                            "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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