Should baseball relegate teams??

[jth1331]

Re: Should baseball relegate teams??

I am so shocked when I see young people be so for socialist standards and against capitalism. No one should micro manage owners...their primary objective is to make a profit

As for salary cap...doesn't work in football. Great teams will be great, and the Lions will be the Lions.

They should fix it so that a player is tied to a team longer but the MLBPA is too strong and the commish is too weak to do that.

BTW, teams that get the benfit of the luxury tax have it heavily auditted. The pIrates for example have used it for minors development and scouting...that has shown via players such as Alvarez, Tabata and McCutcheon. They will get better...as will the Royals

Its just those teams when they make a mistake in how a player will perform it is magnified, because they cannot just go out and get another like the big market teams

I know you're banned now, but you couldn't be more wrong IMO about the salary cap in football. That isn't what is killing the NFL, not having a rookie slotting/cap for the draft is, Sam Bradford just became one of the 5 highest paid QB's in the NFL. It would be like Bryce Harper getting $15 million a year.
What baseball needs is for superstars to stay with respective clubs and not go to Chicago or New York or LA. 1 offseason, the Yankees nabbed the best hitter and best pitcher on the market. Can't fault the players, or the Yankees, but it would've been nice to see say Lee and Sabathia stay in Cleveland, and form the next unbeatable rotation that Atlanta had.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: Should baseball relegate teams??

When the Angels won the World Series in 2002 they did it with a primarily home-grown roster. Kevin Appier, Aaron Sele, and Brad Fullmer were their big offseason acquisitions before the '02 season and they were still the Anaheim Angels.

What happend to the Marlins after the 1997 season was Wayne Huizenga giving the people of Florida the finger because he went out and bought a championship but the people of Miami refused to foot the bill for a new stadium and he promised the Marlins would never win another championship until they got a new stadium. What happend after 2003 isJeffrey Loria stinks as an owner.

Kansas City and Pittsburgh have inept front-offices who follow no real direction. Under both Allard Baird and Dayton Moore the Royals spend on free agents one year and then say they are going with youth he next. The Pirates have been "rebuilding" for 18 years and counting (long before the Red Sox and Yankees started outspending everyone).


Walt Jockety will likely make the Reds contenders for at least as long as he is in Cincinnati. The A's got farther in the post-season after letting Hudson, Mulder, Tejada, Giambi, etc go.

Seattle tied the ML record for wins in a single season without Griffey, Johnson, or ARod. Bad front-office decisions (hiring and not firing quickly enough) Bill Bavasi being top among them is what took the Mariners down.

The Padres have been more succesfull in the last decade than in any other in the teams history.

What you fail to mention is 23 out of the 30 teams in Baseball have played in the post-season since 2003. Of the 7 teams that have not made it 2 are in position to make the playoffs this season (Rangers, Reds), thats not bad.

Excellent post.

[Sportsforever]

Re: Should baseball relegate teams??

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5484947

Interesting story...as was mentioned several times throughout this thread, bad baseball teams are bad because of the way they are run, not because they can't spend money like the Yanks/Red Sox/Mets/Cubs.

[steelcurtain311]

Re: Should baseball relegate teams??

Money obviously impacts everything in baseball. You can point out teams like the Rays, who compete without it, but how much of a chance do they have of staying relevant for another 5 years? Not much. They basically had to draft PERFECT for a long time, just to be anywhere near the Yankees/Sox. That's very hard to do, since even when you take the best players, they can sometimes not pan out. But then once the Carl Crawfords and Evan Longorias and David Prices are all in NY or Boston due to FA, what are the Rays doing then? They're rebuilding through the draft again, which will take another 5-10 years. But what are the Yankees doing every season? Just buying up whatever talent is out there. It's near impossible for teams like the Rays/Jays/O's to stay relevant in a division with that.

I fully agree that incompetence in the front office will sink any team, money or no money, but it's so much easier for the Yankees to solve those issues than the average franchise. The Yankees need pitching, what do they do? Just sign CC Sabathia and AJ Burnett in one off season. They also needed more power, so what do they do? Sign Tex, too. To able to sign elite players like that in one off season, that's pretty ridiculous. No team in baseball can compete with that, as shown by the Yankees easily winning the WS. A normal team would have to go through years of rebuilding to accomplish these things.

I think a FA spending floor would be somewhat of a fix to their horribly broken system.