Aroldis Chapman: Human or Cyborg?

[djep]

Re: Aroldis Chapman: Human or Cyborg?

There are many Pitchers that hit 100+ on the radar gun. Hell Daniel Cabrera Did it 32 times in 2005 just because you throw fast does not mean your good. Piching is all about location and changing speeds with different pitches i'll give you a prime example, Greg Maddux who never touched 95 on the gun was one of the best pitchers of all time. I don't care if Chapman threw 110 just because you can throw fast does not mean you are good.

100 mph is one thing...104 is another beast. Being a Yankee fan you must see the difference with a Joba throwing 95 and one throwing 99.

And I might be even more impressed with Chapman's slider. That thing looked like a whiffle ball coming out of his hand. With that 3/4 delivery and the way he hides the ball with his motion I see great things ahead for the kid if stays healthy. His stuff as a starter should be Randy Johnson-esque, and RJ had control issues as a youngster.

[TheWorldIsYours]

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i fail to see the hype around Chapman. Big deal he has a 100+ fastball in a few relief appearances. I doubt that he'll touch more than 97 on the gun when he becomes a full time starter. One thing i have noticed about Chapman is that he clearly has a control problem. While this can be fixed you must look a bit into the future. Reds are making a playoff run therefore the current manager will most likely have his contract extended. This manager is none other than Dusty Baker the man who destroyed 2 All star caliber pitchers career's. Last i have checked Kerry Wood is reliving for the Yankees and Mark Prior is playing Semi pro ball. Chapman unfortunately will fall into the same fate as these former phenoms. A Great Young pitcher with loads of potential that ultimately blows out his arm because he is over worked by by Dusty Baker.

Why do you think all the hype about Chapman is just because he throws a nice fastballl? It's pretty obvious that this kid is a legit prospect and that's the reason so many teams went after him in the offseason. His starts have been incredible and sorry but if I were a batter and I saw a 104 mph pitch followed up with a 89/90 mph nasty slider that looks unhittable, I would start believing the hype too.

I was seeing Joba get much more hype over his fastball his rookie year.

[NDAlum]

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You guys who think 100mph is just another number you guys need to get out of the baseball section and never come back man.

The fastest I was clocked at was 93mph, and to me that's f'n bringing it.

103? Are you f'ing kidding me? That is such a phenomenal feat by a human being.

Not a big deal? Ok. Whatever.

I love seeing power arms who can pitch. I haven't had a chance to see Chapman yet but I will youtube some stuff later.

100mph is like hitting a 500 ft home run.

[Blzer]

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I will agree that 100MPH is an incredible feat that should not be overlooked. I will however disagree in saying that you are a phenomenal shut down pitcher just because you can throw a ball 100MPH, even at 104MPH. Given enough looks, major league baseball players can hit this pitch. It's the location and the off-speed deception combined with said fastball that will make you a fantastic pitcher.

[NDAlum]

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I will agree that 100MPH is an incredible feat that should not be overlooked. I will however disagree in saying that you are a phenomenal shut down pitcher just because you can throw a ball 100MPH, even at 104MPH. Given enough looks, major league baseball players can hit this pitch. It's the location and the off-speed deception combined with said fastball that will make you a fantastic pitcher.

Well, OF COURSE you know I've played baseball my entire life and a flat fastball, no matter what speed, is going to get hit, as illustrated by Griffey's GS off Zumaya.

I'm just amazed by people going: "oh it's not a big deal, blah"

It is absolutely incredible for a human being to throw a ball 100mph, in my opinion.

[Scottdau]

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A lot of pitcher can hit a 100, the difference is they can't control it. If he can on a consistent bases, he will be a stud. If he gets a Change up he will be very very tough, if he can throw that fast ball for a strike and paint the corners. We shall see how his career turns out. The thing is he will not last too long in a games. Because most like they will throw a lot of pitches. Tim L was the same way. He try to strike out everyone and would not make it pass the 6. Good luck Aroldis, looking forward to watching you pitch!

[Blzer]

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It is absolutely incredible for a human being to throw a ball 100mph, in my opinion.

Absolutely. I am appalled by the fact (and also by people who don't find acclaim in said feat).

[NDAlum]

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A lot of pitcher can hit a 100, the difference is they can't control it. If he can on a consistent bases, he will be a stud. If he gets a Change up he will be very very tough, if he can throw that fast ball for a strike and paint the corners. We shall see how his career turns out. The thing is he will not last too long in a games. Because most like they will throw a lot of pitches. Tim L was the same way. He try to strike out everyone and would not make it pass the 6. Good luck Aroldis, looking forward to watching you pitch!

I hereby request Scottdau be stripped of his ability to post in the baseball section lol

[Scottdau]

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I hereby request Scottdau be stripped of his ability to post in the baseball section lol

Guys that throw high 90's can reach speed of 100. The difference is they are not control pitches and can kill someone. Yes you played College ball, I have had friends pitch in the Majors. I had one friend that could reach 100, but he could only control it in the 95. So Maybe you need to lose your card.

[NDAlum]

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I don't know what to say...

[Scottdau]

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I don't know what to say...

Oh well we just see it different. I seen guys hit 100 mph, but couldn't throw it any where close to a strike. Must guys take stuff off their pitches to locate it. You sure you were a pitcher in college? Or is this EA college baseball video game you are talking about pitching for?

[Scottdau]

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I will say this guys that hit 104 and throw it for strikes that is damn impressive. Guys that hit 100 mph and throw it for a strike damn impressive. Guys who throw 100mph and it goes too the back stop not impressive.

[NDAlum]

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All I'm saying is that about .1%, or less, of pitchers in professional baseball can hit 100MPH on the radar regardless of throwing a strike or not.

It's an incredible human feat to throw a baseball 100MPH

[Scottdau]

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All I'm saying is that about .1%, or less, of pitchers in professional baseball can hit 100MPH on the radar regardless of throwing a strike or not.

It's an incredible human feat to throw a baseball 100MPH

I would say it is more than 1%, but what ever floats your boat.

[Scottdau]

Re: Aroldis Chapman: Human or Cyborg?

All I'm saying is that about .1%, or less, of pitchers in professional baseball can hit 100MPH on the radar regardless of throwing a strike or not.

It's an incredible human feat to throw a baseball 100MPH

Reread what you wrote bro.

Oh OK my fault, it should have said reread what I bolded.