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  • PVarck31
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    • Jan 2003
    • 16869

    #31
    Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

    The bottom line is that you don't run when up or down big. Its just the way it is. It may not make sense, but its the way it has always been done.
    Last edited by PVarck31; 09-04-2010, 10:03 PM.

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    • snepp
      We'll waste him too.
      • Apr 2003
      • 10007

      #32
      Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

      I've never had a problem with someone running when they're down.

      The 4th inning is way too early to completely give up on a game.
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      • PVarck31
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        • Jan 2003
        • 16869

        #33
        Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

        Originally posted by snepp
        I've never had a problem with someone running when they're down.

        The 4th inning is way too early to completely give up on a game.
        I was once told by someone in professional baseball that one of the reasons running when you are down big is frowned upon is because running is a risk. Why would you be taking risks when you need runs. Every base runner is huge, you don't take a risk by giving up an out. You should be playing straight up, no risks to score the runs you need.

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        • snepp
          We'll waste him too.
          • Apr 2003
          • 10007

          #34
          Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

          If they're not holding you they're all but conceding the base, you may as well take it and improve your chances of getting a run in later, as well as avoiding DP's.

          If you're being held and they're paying attention to you it's a completely different animal.
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          • WTF
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            • Aug 2002
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            #35
            Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

            I can see not trying to steal 3rd, as that can take away a runner in scoring position, but moving from 1st to 2nd and avoiding the DP is less of a risk than staying if you've got a good lead, good speed, and they aren't holding you on.

            4th inning is way too early to give up.
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            • King_B_Mack
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              • Jan 2009
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              #36
              Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

              Originally posted by pjv31_OS
              I was once told by someone in professional baseball that one of the reasons running when you are down big is frowned upon is because running is a risk. Why would you be taking risks when you need runs. Every base runner is huge, you don't take a risk by giving up an out. You should be playing straight up, no risks to score the runs you need.
              Still having trouble understanding this. So me, member of the Cubs who are up by 11-12 runs in the 4th inning see you, member of the Pirates steal second and/or third after drawing a walk and on the next time you come to bat I'm standing there on the mound like...'he could've cost his team a chance to come back in this game. He's getting it here.' I proceed to drill you or throw behind you. How does that make any sense whatsoever? It's not my job to police your team. I'd consider that a bigger issue than someone looking at they're homerun or any of baseball's other stupid unwritten rules.

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              • NDAlum
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                • Jun 2010
                • 11453

                #37
                Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

                Originally posted by snepp
                If they're not holding you they're all but conceding the base, you may as well take it and improve your chances of getting a run in later, as well as avoiding DP's.

                If you're being held and they're paying attention to you it's a completely different animal.
                It's just not how you do it man. Baseball is a game of respect and when down 10+ runs you get back in the game by hitting the ball, not stealing bases.
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                • snepp
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                  • Apr 2003
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                  #38
                  Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

                  Originally posted by NDAlum
                  It's just not how you do it man. Baseball is a game of respect and when down 10+ runs you get back in the game by hitting the ball, not stealing bases.

                  There's nothing disrespectful about running down ten in the 4th inning unless you're overly sensitive and just looking for an excuse to make something of it. It would be more disrespectful if you gave up and threw in the towel in the 4th inning. They're "professionals," and big boys, if they don't like it they can throw him out.
                  Last edited by snepp; 09-08-2010, 11:29 AM.
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                  • JBH3
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                    • Jan 2007
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                    #39
                    Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

                    I think the "Unwritten Rules" can be petty and ******** from both sides of the spectrum. Looking back at the Dallas Braden incident it was stupid for him to get all upset over A-Rod walking on "his" mound.

                    Given Morgan's incidents, if a catcher is going to be in the way, Morgan should take him out, if his team is down runs regardless of time/situation...he should still be trying to win thus stealing.

                    If we're going to have these unwritten rules then lets just put a board "Get Even Scoreboard" next to the "real" scoreboard that shows the tally on which team has broken what rule and who owes who.

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                    • NDAlum
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                      • Jun 2010
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                      #40
                      Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

                      Originally posted by snepp
                      There's nothing disrespectful about running down ten in the 4th inning unless you're overly sensitive and just looking for an excuse to make something of it. It would be more disrespectful if you gave up and threw in the towel in the 4th inning. They're "professionals," and big boys, if they don't like it they can throw him out.
                      Ok

                      I disagree.

                      Why do people always have to resort to name calling or something of that nature? Overly sensitive? Really?
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                      • NDAlum
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                        • Jun 2010
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                        #41
                        Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

                        Originally posted by JBH3
                        I think the "Unwritten Rules" can be petty and ******** from both sides of the spectrum. Looking back at the Dallas Braden incident it was stupid for him to get all upset over A-Rod walking on "his" mound.

                        Given Morgan's incidents, if a catcher is going to be in the way, Morgan should take him out, if his team is down runs regardless of time/situation...he should still be trying to win thus stealing.

                        If we're going to have these unwritten rules then lets just put a board "Get Even Scoreboard" next to the "real" scoreboard that shows the tally on which team has broken what rule and who owes who.

                        An eye for an eye leaves everybody blind.
                        "Take him out"? Seriously?
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                        • PVarck31
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                          • Jan 2003
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                          #42
                          Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

                          I think it was a couple nights ago in the Indians v Angels game where the Indians were up big and Torii Hunter attempted to steal 3rd. He was thrown out by Lou Marson's bionic arm, but the Indians PBP announcer Rick Manning said something to the effect of it being bush league. And how you don't do that when you are down big like they were.

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                          • snepp
                            We'll waste him too.
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 10007

                            #43
                            Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

                            Originally posted by NDAlum
                            Ok

                            I disagree.

                            Why do people always have to resort to name calling or something of that nature? Overly sensitive? Really?

                            If you weren't in such a hurry to get offended you would have realized I was referring to the team getting run on making a big deal out of it, which the Marlins did.

                            The Marlins cared less about the running and more about who was doing the running, they were obviously still sore over prior events (the overly sensitive). Morgan simply gave them a convenient excuse to go after him, under the guise of "you don't run in that situation."




                            As an aside, even if I were referring directly to you, saying someone is "overly sensitive" is hardly "name calling or something of that nature."
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                            • JBH3
                              Marvel's Finest
                              • Jan 2007
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                              #44
                              Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

                              Originally posted by NDAlum
                              "Take him out"? Seriously?
                              So he should run around the catcher?
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                              All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                              • HustlinOwl
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                                • Mar 2004
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                                #45
                                Re: Baseball's Unwritten Rules & Why?

                                Throw at him in the first if you think he was wrong the night before and not when you are up 11 runs, that's bush

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