Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

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  • elicoleman
    Im The Baby/Gotta Love Me
    • Sep 2002
    • 34655

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    Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

    Great article, can't wait to see the reception on Saturday.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=5553785

    I never saw a man enjoy his work more than Pete Rose. He played every game like he'd been let out of solitary confinement for the day. He didn't read books, never went to college and was unfit for cocktail parties. He was 99-44/100 percent baseball, from that butcher-block head to his endlessly tapping feet.

    He would sprint to first on walks, slide face-first into second and slam baseballs into the AstroTurf on third outs.

    He could compute his average on the way to first. He knew which were strike umps, ball umps, high umps, low umps, hitters' umps and pitchers' umps. Rose even knew which ground crews were bunt-friendly.

    "He thinks about baseball day and night," Sparky Anderson once said of him. "He can't sit five minutes in a chair and talk to you about something else. He'll get up. Baseball is all he thinks about. He'll never leave the game."

    Instead, the game left him. Banned from baseball in 1989 for gambling on it, there was never a crueler punishment devised for one person. It was like taking beer from Norm or mirrors from Demi Moore.

    Which makes this Saturday night in Cincinnati that much more delicious for him.

    Rose has been granted one evening's pardon by MLB commissioner Bud Selig to re-create base knock No. 4192, the one that made him the undisputed hit king. It will be 25 years to the day at Great American Ball Park. And it will be the first time he's stepped foot on a Reds infield in 21 years, a kind of solitary confinement in itself....(continued in link)
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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42520

    #2
    Re: Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

    Awesome! This guy should undoubtedly be in the player's Hall of Fame. I was so glad to have met him and shaken his hand six years ago.
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    • baseball66
      Banned
      • Mar 2009
      • 1505

      #3
      Re: Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

      Originally posted by Blzer
      Awesome! This guy should undoubtedly be in the player's Hall of Fame. I was so glad to have met him and shaken his hand six years ago.
      How much did he charge you for that,lol.

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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42520

        #4
        Re: Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

        Originally posted by baseball66
        How much did he charge you for that,lol.
        Ha, good call. He was at Caesars Palace charging for autographs and photos, but I just walked up there and said, "Mr. Rose, alongside the utmost respect I have for everything you did on the playing field, I would just like to shake your hand." He said his thanks and shook it for a good few seconds even, free of charge.
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        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #5
          Re: Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

          I have a feeling Pete's going to get a few minute standing ovation and well deserved too. I believe he should be in the HOF as well. What he did is small potatoes compared to some others who will probably get in.

          He was always an intense player who gave it his all on the field, even during all star games!
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          • TheMatrix31
            RF
            • Jul 2002
            • 52920

            #6
            Re: Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

            I was at Field of Dreams two days ago. Too bad he wasn't there.

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            • jake44np
              Post Like a Champion!
              • Jul 2002
              • 9563

              #7
              Re: Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

              I was at the game Saturday night and I was kind of disappointed that he was not allowed to speak. I am a huge Reds fan but not really a huge Rose fan, the guy broke the cardinal rule in sports and lied about doing it for years.
              It was also pretty ironic that on the night the Reds honored him he couldnt stay for the game because he had a paid appearance at a Casino in Lawrenceburg, Indiana (my hometown!). They had a Pete Rose roast that my brother in law attended at the price of $200 a ticket. Again on the night they honor the guy he cant stay for the game because he is being paid to hang out at a casino!
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              • snepp
                We'll waste him too.
                • Apr 2003
                • 10007

                #8
                Re: Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

                Originally posted by jake44np
                Again on the night they honor the guy he cant stay for the game because he is being paid to hang out at a casino!

                Not surprising, he's always been a been a bit of a slimeball/scumbag/etc.
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                • Sportsforever
                  NL MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 20368

                  #9
                  Re: Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

                  Originally posted by snepp
                  Not surprising, he's always been a been a bit of a slimeball/scumbag/etc.
                  Add overrated baseball player to the list...sure, he was a good player and probably is a deserving HOF'r, but he played corner positions (LF/RF, 3B/1B) and wasn't known for his glove all while providing a .784 OPS for a 118 OPS+. His popularity comes from the fact he played for the Big Red Machine, hustled, and racked up a lot of hits.
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                  • snepp
                    We'll waste him too.
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 10007

                    #10
                    Re: Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

                    He could have retired after his age 38 season with this line:

                    <table class="sortable stats_table"><tbody><tr class=""><td align="right">.312</td> <td align="right">.381</td> <td align="right">.432</td> <td align="right">.814</td> <td align="right">126 OPS+ 3,372 hits
                    </td></tr></tbody></table>
                    He racked up some 3,700 pretty awful plate appearances after that point, sub-700 OPS.
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                    • Sportsforever
                      NL MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 20368

                      #11
                      Re: Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

                      Originally posted by snepp
                      He could have retired after his age 38 season with this line:

                      <TABLE class="sortable stats_table"><TBODY><TR class=""><TD align=right>.312</TD><TD align=right>.381</TD><TD align=right>.432</TD><TD align=right>.814</TD><TD align=right>126 OPS+ 3,372 hits

                      </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
                      He racked up some 3,700 pretty awful plate appearances after that point, sub-700 OPS.
                      True. I'm not saying he wasn't a good player...he really was and one of the best of his generation. I just get tired of hearing people say he was "the greatest hitter" to ever play because he racked up 4200+ hits.
                      "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                      • snepp
                        We'll waste him too.
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 10007

                        #12
                        Re: Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

                        Originally posted by Sportsforever
                        True. I'm not saying he wasn't a good player...he really was and one of the best of his generation. I just get tired of hearing people say he was "the greatest hitter" to ever play because he racked up 4200+ hits.

                        I hear ya, no arguments here.
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                        • Chip Douglass
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 12256

                          #13
                          Re: Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

                          Originally posted by snepp
                          He could have retired after his age 38 season with this line:

                          <table class="sortable stats_table"><tbody><tr class=""><td align="right">.312</td> <td align="right">.381</td> <td align="right">.432</td> <td align="right">.814</td> <td align="right">126 OPS+ 3,372 hits
                          </td></tr></tbody></table>
                          He racked up some 3,700 pretty awful plate appearances after that point, sub-700 OPS.
                          That's actually a very similar line to Ichiro's.

                          The fact that he was voted onto MLB's All-Century team automatically qualifies him for the title of most overrated.
                          I write things on the Internet.

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                          • jake44np
                            Post Like a Champion!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 9563

                            #14
                            Re: Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

                            Originally posted by Olson-for-Heisman
                            That's actually a very similar line to Ichiro's.

                            The fact that he was voted onto MLB's All-Century team automatically qualifies him for the title of most overrated.
                            I totally agree! And I am a huge Reds fan but I get tired of everyone here in Cincy saying he is the greatest hitter of all time.
                            The fact is he was a really good player who stayed healthy and played a really long time.
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                            • ASB37
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 2624

                              #15
                              Re: Pete Rose: An Evening Of Forgiveness

                              Originally posted by jake44np
                              The fact is he was a really good player who stayed healthy and played a really long time.
                              But isn't that part of being a great player? Being able to stay healthy and continue having some type of effective production through your later years?

                              I think Rose should be in the HOF hands down, but I'm to young to remember him managing/the gambling "scandal".
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