It's getting to be UNDENYABLE

**dce1228** · 09-02-2003, 07:15 PM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

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AI_Franchise03 said:

Please don't talk about the shifts, or other strategies used by the opposing teams, when describing his greatness.
Most teams throw the "martini glass" shift at Giambi, and I don't bring that up when talking about his offense. Nor do I bring up other things when talking about him.

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Totally, let's see Bonds be versatile enough to play DH like Giambi can.

AI, this thread is about Bonds. Love how you proudly claim how you "don't bring Giambi up"... but look what you did!... look who you accidentally brought up!... in a Bonds thread!.. If you want to slob on Giambi's knob do it somewhere else. Start another thread. Write an essay. Entitle it "the underrated Diplodocus of Gotham"...

As for Bonds. I will confess to not being his greatest fan in times past, but I've gotten over that in the last few years and can honestly say it's been a pleasure watching him play ball. We'll remember what he's doing now for the rest of our lives.

**thecomic** · 09-02-2003, 07:42 PM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

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dce1228 said:
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AI_Franchise03 said:

As for Bonds. I will confess to not being his greatest fan in times past, but I've gotten over that in the last few years and can honestly say it's been a pleasure watching him play ball. We'll remember what he's doing now for the rest of our lives.

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That's beautiful, and exactly what I was trying to get people to acknowledge.

**thecomic** · 09-02-2003, 07:42 PM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

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dce1228 said:
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AI_Franchise03 said:

As for Bonds. I will confess to not being his greatest fan in times past, but I've gotten over that in the last few years and can honestly say it's been a pleasure watching him play ball. We'll remember what he's doing now for the rest of our lives.

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That's beautiful, and exactly what I was trying to get people to acknowledge.

**thecomic** · 09-02-2003, 07:42 PM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

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dce1228 said:
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AI_Franchise03 said:

As for Bonds. I will confess to not being his greatest fan in times past, but I've gotten over that in the last few years and can honestly say it's been a pleasure watching him play ball. We'll remember what he's doing now for the rest of our lives.

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That's beautiful, and exactly what I was trying to get people to acknowledge.

**Neolithic** · 09-02-2003, 08:19 PM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

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thecomic said:

Be funny trying to see him hit a HR after his elbow gets shattered 4 or 5 times.

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Dude, did you read the previous post? He had surgery on that elbow. He never wore that pad before he started having problems with the elbow either.

Your comment makes about as much sense as this,
"If Montana, Elway, & Marino want to go down as some of the greatest QB's ever they should've ditched the facemasks and wore leather helmets."

I guess Wayne Gretzky wasn't a very good hockey player either.

For that matter, Jason Vorhees is a wimp 'cuz he wears a hockey mask.

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THAT'S A REASON WHY HE IS SO DOMINANT AT THE PLATE!!!

HE can stand so close to it and make you throw it outside, which is WELL WITHING HIS REACH BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE HE IS. You take his armor away, he starts getting hurt more by inside pitches that catch the elbow. And he backs off the plate. Opening up the outside corner. And then he bocomes less dominant. And less unpitchable.

**Neolithic** · 09-02-2003, 08:19 PM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

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thecomic said:

Be funny trying to see him hit a HR after his elbow gets shattered 4 or 5 times.

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Dude, did you read the previous post? He had surgery on that elbow. He never wore that pad before he started having problems with the elbow either.

Your comment makes about as much sense as this,
"If Montana, Elway, & Marino want to go down as some of the greatest QB's ever they should've ditched the facemasks and wore leather helmets."

I guess Wayne Gretzky wasn't a very good hockey player either.

For that matter, Jason Vorhees is a wimp 'cuz he wears a hockey mask.

<hr /></blockquote>

THAT'S A REASON WHY HE IS SO DOMINANT AT THE PLATE!!!

HE can stand so close to it and make you throw it outside, which is WELL WITHING HIS REACH BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE HE IS. You take his armor away, he starts getting hurt more by inside pitches that catch the elbow. And he backs off the plate. Opening up the outside corner. And then he bocomes less dominant. And less unpitchable.

**Neolithic** · 09-02-2003, 08:19 PM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

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thecomic said:

Be funny trying to see him hit a HR after his elbow gets shattered 4 or 5 times.

<hr /></blockquote>

Dude, did you read the previous post? He had surgery on that elbow. He never wore that pad before he started having problems with the elbow either.

Your comment makes about as much sense as this,
"If Montana, Elway, & Marino want to go down as some of the greatest QB's ever they should've ditched the facemasks and wore leather helmets."

I guess Wayne Gretzky wasn't a very good hockey player either.

For that matter, Jason Vorhees is a wimp 'cuz he wears a hockey mask.

<hr /></blockquote>

THAT'S A REASON WHY HE IS SO DOMINANT AT THE PLATE!!!

HE can stand so close to it and make you throw it outside, which is WELL WITHING HIS REACH BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE HE IS. You take his armor away, he starts getting hurt more by inside pitches that catch the elbow. And he backs off the plate. Opening up the outside corner. And then he bocomes less dominant. And less unpitchable.

**SPTO** · 09-02-2003, 08:35 PM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

I see Franchise said not to mention the Bonds Shift in describing how great he is offensively....Guess we should tell baseball historians not to mention the Willams Shift and how it stole about 25-40% of his basehits in his career. Yet he's the last guy to hit .400 in a season.

hmmm

**SPTO** · 09-02-2003, 08:35 PM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

I see Franchise said not to mention the Bonds Shift in describing how great he is offensively....Guess we should tell baseball historians not to mention the Willams Shift and how it stole about 25-40% of his basehits in his career. Yet he's the last guy to hit .400 in a season.

hmmm

**SPTO** · 09-02-2003, 08:35 PM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

I see Franchise said not to mention the Bonds Shift in describing how great he is offensively....Guess we should tell baseball historians not to mention the Willams Shift and how it stole about 25-40% of his basehits in his career. Yet he's the last guy to hit .400 in a season.

hmmm

**thecomic** · 09-02-2003, 11:26 PM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

THAT'S A REASON WHY HE IS SO DOMINANT AT THE PLATE!!!

HE can stand so close to it and make you throw it outside, which is WELL WITHING HIS REACH BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE HE IS. You take his armor away, he starts getting hurt more by inside pitches that catch the elbow. And he backs off the plate. Opening up the outside corner. And then he bocomes less dominant. And less unpitchable.

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dude, i understand that being up on the plate helps but it's not like pitchers can get him out w/ inside pitches either. he won some MVP's without the elbow pad.
he would be an idiot to not wear the elbow pad- keep in mind "HE HAS HAD SURGERY ON THAT ELBOW"
If elbow pads helped people hit home runs then everybody would wear them.
Besides, the part of your post that I was

at was when you said it would be nice to see him try to hit after his elbow got craked 4 or 5 times.
It was cracked, he had bone spurs removed. But the man has a brain and now wears a piece of protective gear to protect his previous injury. you criticize him for that? that makes no sense.

**thecomic** · 09-02-2003, 11:26 PM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

THAT'S A REASON WHY HE IS SO DOMINANT AT THE PLATE!!!

HE can stand so close to it and make you throw it outside, which is WELL WITHING HIS REACH BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE HE IS. You take his armor away, he starts getting hurt more by inside pitches that catch the elbow. And he backs off the plate. Opening up the outside corner. And then he bocomes less dominant. And less unpitchable.

<hr /></blockquote>

dude, i understand that being up on the plate helps but it's not like pitchers can get him out w/ inside pitches either. he won some MVP's without the elbow pad.
he would be an idiot to not wear the elbow pad- keep in mind "HE HAS HAD SURGERY ON THAT ELBOW"
If elbow pads helped people hit home runs then everybody would wear them.
Besides, the part of your post that I was

at was when you said it would be nice to see him try to hit after his elbow got craked 4 or 5 times.
It was cracked, he had bone spurs removed. But the man has a brain and now wears a piece of protective gear to protect his previous injury. you criticize him for that? that makes no sense.

**thecomic** · 09-02-2003, 11:26 PM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

THAT'S A REASON WHY HE IS SO DOMINANT AT THE PLATE!!!

HE can stand so close to it and make you throw it outside, which is WELL WITHING HIS REACH BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE HE IS. You take his armor away, he starts getting hurt more by inside pitches that catch the elbow. And he backs off the plate. Opening up the outside corner. And then he bocomes less dominant. And less unpitchable.

<hr /></blockquote>

dude, i understand that being up on the plate helps but it's not like pitchers can get him out w/ inside pitches either. he won some MVP's without the elbow pad.
he would be an idiot to not wear the elbow pad- keep in mind "HE HAS HAD SURGERY ON THAT ELBOW"
If elbow pads helped people hit home runs then everybody would wear them.
Besides, the part of your post that I was

at was when you said it would be nice to see him try to hit after his elbow got craked 4 or 5 times.
It was cracked, he had bone spurs removed. But the man has a brain and now wears a piece of protective gear to protect his previous injury. you criticize him for that? that makes no sense.

**AI_Franchise03** · 09-03-2003, 12:13 AM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

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dce1228 said:
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AI_Franchise03 said:

Please don't talk about the shifts, or other strategies used by the opposing teams, when describing his greatness.
Most teams throw the "martini glass" shift at Giambi, and I don't bring that up when talking about his offense. Nor do I bring up other things when talking about him.

<hr /></blockquote>

Totally, let's see Bonds be versatile enough to play DH like Giambi can.

AI, this thread is about Bonds. Love how you proudly claim how you "don't bring Giambi up"... but look what you did!... look who you accidentally brought up!... in a Bonds thread!.. If you want to slob on Giambi's knob do it somewhere else. Start another thread. Write an essay. Entitle it "the underrated Diplodocus of Gotham"...

As for Bonds. I will confess to not being his greatest fan in times past, but I've gotten over that in the last few years and can honestly say it's been a pleasure watching him play ball. We'll remember what he's doing now for the rest of our lives.

<hr /></blockquote>

I didn't even bring up Giambi! Show me where I brought up Giambi, and used it to to his defense? All I said was that shifts, shouldn't come into discussion, when talking about a person's offense.

And you damn know if the Giants had an upcoming good LF, and had the DH rule, Bonds would be DH-ing everyday. Then, we would see a differential that may bring up the point that being a DH isn't as easy, or as healthy as many think.

And TO, Bonds isn't hitting .400.

**AI_Franchise03** · 09-03-2003, 12:13 AM

Re: It\'s getting to be UNDENYABLE

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dce1228 said:
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AI_Franchise03 said:

Please don't talk about the shifts, or other strategies used by the opposing teams, when describing his greatness.
Most teams throw the "martini glass" shift at Giambi, and I don't bring that up when talking about his offense. Nor do I bring up other things when talking about him.

<hr /></blockquote>

Totally, let's see Bonds be versatile enough to play DH like Giambi can.

AI, this thread is about Bonds. Love how you proudly claim how you "don't bring Giambi up"... but look what you did!... look who you accidentally brought up!... in a Bonds thread!.. If you want to slob on Giambi's knob do it somewhere else. Start another thread. Write an essay. Entitle it "the underrated Diplodocus of Gotham"...

As for Bonds. I will confess to not being his greatest fan in times past, but I've gotten over that in the last few years and can honestly say it's been a pleasure watching him play ball. We'll remember what he's doing now for the rest of our lives.

<hr /></blockquote>

I didn't even bring up Giambi! Show me where I brought up Giambi, and used it to to his defense? All I said was that shifts, shouldn't come into discussion, when talking about a person's offense.

And you damn know if the Giants had an upcoming good LF, and had the DH rule, Bonds would be DH-ing everyday. Then, we would see a differential that may bring up the point that being a DH isn't as easy, or as healthy as many think.

And TO, Bonds isn't hitting .400.

It's getting to be UNDENYABLE

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