Series MVP Get Slap in the Face

[Scottdau]

Re: Series MVP Get Slap in the Face

I'm not going to comment on specifically on the merits of Renteria and what he deserves at this point of his career, but I'm getting increasingly sick of the argument that its a lot of money and they should be happy. Players are USED to making this money. You have to look at it on the scale of a normal person's yearly income. Offering 1 million in this type of situation is like offering someone 30k when they're used to making 100k.

It's all about proportions.

I agree. Their world is difference than ours.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Yes. But things still cost the same in the same world we all live in. Not like a gallon of milk cost them $3,000.00 cause they make a million.

They should just choose their words more carefully since they will not get sympathy about $1 mil "not being worth it and being retired I will make more", from the majority of the world's populace.

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[KSUowls]

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First I'll comment on the issue of players making money. They have a skill, there is a market for it, and they should be paid their market value. Whether that means they should be able to afford high rises in New York City or a cabin in South Dakota is irrelevant.

On the issue of Rentaria. He came up big in the World Series, but that doesn't reflect what his value should be for this year. He's 34, he's missed at least 35 games in 3 of last 4 seasons, and the last time he hit better than .276 was in 2007. He was huge in the 5 World Series games for the Giants, but before that he went 1/16 at the plate in the NLCS. He's only a .250 career hitting in the postseason.

The fact is he is an ageing player with little to hang his hat on since 2007 except for one best of 7 series in 2010 and a liability in terms of how many games is he going to be on the field for you.

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Re: Series MVP Get Slap in the Face

I'm not going to comment on specifically on the merits of Renteria and what he deserves at this point of his career, but I'm getting increasingly sick of the argument that its a lot of money and they should be happy. Players are USED to making this money. You have to look at it on the scale of a normal person's yearly income. Offering 1 million in this type of situation is like offering someone 30k when they're used to making 100k.

It's all about proportions.

That's actually a very good point.

My original sentiment stands, though... If you don't like the compensation, don't take the job. Maybe Renteria can get a better deal elsewhere.

Maybe it's just the tone... The sense of entitlement. A million bones is A LOT of cash. I get what you're saying and it's logical and makes perfect sense. I won't deny that. But I can't help it if these types of attitudes rub me the wrong way.

[snepp]

Re: Series MVP Get Slap in the Face

I'm not going to comment on specifically on the merits of Renteria and what he deserves at this point of his career, but I'm getting increasingly sick of the argument that its a lot of money and they should be happy. Players are USED to making this money. You have to look at it on the scale of a normal person's yearly income. Offering 1 million in this type of situation is like offering someone 30k when they're used to making 100k.

It's all about proportions.

Does that normal person's productivity at their job also completely disappear, making them all but worthless as an everyday employee? If you start to suck eggs at your job I would hope you couldn't make the same amount of money just for being there.

[CMH]

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Does that normal person's productivity at their job also completely disappear, making them all but worthless as an everyday employee? If you start to suck eggs at your job I would hope you couldn't make the same amount of money just for being there.

True. But, I think there's a lot of other factors to consider.

You work a regular job and you can likely work there till your in retirement age. Athletes, at least the major sport ones, do not have that luxury.

Sure, their luxury is making millions of dollars compared to our measly thousands, but I find it hard to believe that anyone working a regular job would be happy that their salary is being cut drastically to the point that they are making below the average salary at their position.

I'm not sure if Renteria feels entitled to more money. I can't judge that. But, I can judge that he is being offered below the league average and feels that it is a slap in the face.

In a lot of ways, he should feel that way. He should be very angry about that because everyone would be angry about that. The amount of money in comparison to other fields is irrelevant. He's working a job that makes more money than other jobs. That's just the reality of it.

[jfsolo]

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Players should really never speak about their salary/contract issues publicly. Internally they can feel as indignant as they want to, and make what ever decisions they need to make based off of those feelings, but trying to shame an organization into paying you more by making a public proclamation of being "disrespected" is sheer folly.

It may occasionally work for Iconic players, *See Derek Jeter * and even then it creates an unnecessary amount residual acrimony. Quite often though its a bridge burning endeavor, not only with the organization you're deal with, but with others teams around the league as well.

[CMH]

Re: Series MVP Get Slap in the Face

Players should really never speak about their salary/contract issues publicly. Internally they can feel as indignant as they want to, and make what ever decisions they need to make based off of those feelings, but trying to shame an organization into paying you more by making a public proclamation of being "disrespected" is sheer folly.

It may occasionally work for Iconic players, *See Derek Jeter * and even then it creates an unnecessary amount residual acrimony. Quite often though its a bridge burning endeavor, not only with the organization you're deal with, but with others teams around the league as well.

I agree with this as well. No matter that they may have a legitimate complaint, the general public is not going to see eye-to-eye with a millionaire complaining about their finances. Best to keep those thoughts private.