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  • berenjena
    Pro
    • Jan 2008
    • 735

    #1

    Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?



    The most money that Aaron ever made during a season was $240,000, and that was at the close of his 23-year career that ended with the Milwaukee Brewers after the 1976 season.

    How much would Aaron make now?
    "Uh, let's put it this way -- Who's the highest-paid player?" Aaron said, before I replied Alex Rodriguez, who will pocket $31 million this year for playing third base for the New York Yankees.
    Aaron responded quickly, saying, "I would make at least that much, no question about it. "I don't think there is anything that he does that I couldn't do, and that I couldn't do better."

    "Overall, if you just put our careers together -- he's had some gigantic numbers when you look at specific years," said Aaron, who made his debut in the Major Leagues with the Milwaukee Braves in 1954 and stayed with the franchise when it moved to Atlanta in 1966. "But if you smooth it out, and if you start looking at things, I'd come out better."

    If Aaron were in his prime today, could he remain the famously shy person he was back then? As a player, he could drift into the background since he mostly dealt with newspaper reporters, and television folks on occasion.


    Now, you have bloggers on the Internet, talk radio and the non-stop analysis on the 24-hour cable outlets. As a result, those of fame must deal with gossip and hearsay that the old media used to ignore. "You know, that would give me more problems than somebody's fastball," Aaron said. "I even try to stay out of the spotlight now when I'm around the Braves. I just want to watch the game and then go home. I never was one to look for publicity, and the way they do [the media] today, it would be a serious problem for me."

    What is Aaron's issue with A-Rod? Sounds as if he is jealous, which is unfortunate. Maybe it is old age. In any event, this is the second time in a month he has said negative things about A-Rod. Aaron does not sound very shy to me. Nor is he hiding from the media, is he?
  • vols bravesfan
    Banned
    • Feb 2009
    • 1051

    #2
    Re: Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

    Probably the Steroids deal.

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    • roadman
      *ll St*r
      • Aug 2003
      • 26339

      #3
      Re: Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

      Has nothing to do with jealously.

      He played in a different era. Even when he broke the HR record, many people felt Ruth was still the HR king.

      A-Rod never had any type of that pressure.

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      • berenjena
        Pro
        • Jan 2008
        • 735

        #4
        Re: Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

        Originally posted by roadman
        Has nothing to do with jealously.

        He played in a different era. Even when he broke the HR record, many people felt Ruth was still the HR king.

        A-Rod never had any type of that pressure.
        "A-Rod never had any type of that pressure" really?

        Biggest contract in the history of Baseball, Playing In new york, Playing the playoffs in New York. The media (huge factor).

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        • NDAlum
          ND
          • Jun 2010
          • 11453

          #5
          Re: Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

          I met Hank Aaron and he was rude and arrogant. I am not surprised by his words.
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          • WazzuRC
            Go Cougs!
            • Dec 2002
            • 5617

            #6
            Re: Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

            Originally posted by berenjena
            "A-Rod never had any type of that pressure" really?

            Biggest contract in the history of Baseball, Playing In new york, Playing the playoffs in New York. The media (huge factor).
            A-Rod didn't have an ounce of the same pressure Aaron had. Aaron, an African-American, broke one of the most symbolic records in all of sports and entertainment during the early 1970's. That's all I'll say without breaking the TOS.

            LMAO at Hank Aaron being jealous of Alex Rodriguez. Give me a break.

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            • bruinz
              Rookie
              • Mar 2011
              • 8

              #7
              Re: Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

              Originally posted by berenjena
              "A-Rod never had any type of that pressure" really?

              Biggest contract in the history of Baseball, Playing In new york, Playing the playoffs in New York. The media (huge factor).
              ..and he's vastly overrated because of that. Not to mention the steroid use. I wouldn't be surprised if Aaron felt the way he does about A-Roid. He cheated to get those HRs while Aaron didn't.

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              • roadman
                *ll St*r
                • Aug 2003
                • 26339

                #8
                Re: Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

                Originally posted by berenjena
                "A-Rod never had any type of that pressure" really?

                Biggest contract in the history of Baseball, Playing In new york, Playing the playoffs in New York. The media (huge factor).
                Not even close to the pressure Aaron had playing during his era, NY market or not.

                I'm not going to try to break the TOS, either.

                WazzuRC and I are spot on.

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                • 24
                  Forever A Legend
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 2809

                  #9
                  Re: Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

                  Originally posted by bruinz
                  ..and he's vastly overrated because of that. Not to mention the steroid use. I wouldn't be surprised if Aaron felt the way he does about A-Roid. He cheated to get those HRs while Aaron didn't.
                  he didn't "cheat" for all of them. it was 3 years in his career the Rodriguez took steroids. And plus he has proven that he doesn't need the juice to hit homers as he has topped 50 with the yankees.

                  I have also met Hank Aaron when i went up to the hall of fame a year ago. he sends off a very arrogant vibe and thinks who the hell he is. Face the facts Hank you were never baseballs greatest player. you were heavily protected in the braves lineup wheather it was by eddie matthews, darrell evans, davey johnson or rico carty and you played in a hitters ballpark.


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                  • snepp
                    We'll waste him too.
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 10007

                    #10
                    Re: Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

                    poopy, and Rodriguez hasn't had some serious "protection" throughout his career?


                    Career OPS+ (accounts for ballpark)

                    155 - Aaron
                    145 - Rodriguez
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                    • roadman
                      *ll St*r
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 26339

                      #11
                      Re: Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

                      Originally posted by poopydude
                      he didn't "cheat" for all of them. it was 3 years in his career the Rodriguez took steroids. And plus he has proven that he doesn't need the juice to hit homers as he has topped 50 with the yankees.

                      I have also met Hank Aaron when i went up to the hall of fame a year ago. he sends off a very arrogant vibe and thinks who the hell he is. Face the facts Hank you were never baseballs greatest player. you were heavily protected in the braves lineup wheather it was by eddie matthews, darrell evans, davey johnson or rico carty and you played in a hitters ballpark.
                      Milwaukee County stadium was never considered a "hitters" ballpark, quite the contrary.

                      PS- Snepp, once again, nice job on the stats digging.
                      Last edited by roadman; 03-18-2011, 02:12 PM.

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                      • WazzuRC
                        Go Cougs!
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 5617

                        #12
                        Re: Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

                        Originally posted by poopydude
                        Face the facts Hank you were never baseballs greatest player. you were heavily protected in the braves lineup wheather it was by eddie matthews, darrell evans, davey johnson or rico carty and you played in a hitters ballpark.
                        The complete irony of this post considering what A-Rod has had to work with seemingly his entire career is hilarious.

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                        • snepp
                          We'll waste him too.
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 10007

                          #13
                          Re: Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

                          Originally posted by WazzuRC
                          The complete irony of this post considering what A-Rod has had to work with seemingly his entire career is hilarious.

                          Pffft, Griffey, Buhner, Edgar, Pudge, Palmiero, Young, Teixeira (on two different teams), Jeter, Posada, Sheffield, Giambi, Cano, among others.......all scrubs.


                          I think it could reasonably be argued (and possibly proven statistically) that the quality of his supporting cast throughout his career ranks among some of the best in history.
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                          • SPTO
                            binging
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 68046

                            #14
                            Re: Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

                            Originally posted by NDAlum
                            I met Hank Aaron and he was rude and arrogant. I am not surprised by his words.
                            That's disappointing to hear

                            Anyways, I think Aaron was better overall as an offensive threat. Let's put it this way. Hank Aaron had one of, if not the longest peak of any playing in MLB history. The guy was among the best players in the game for literally 19 straight years. Think about that, even A-Rod has a down year every couple years or so but Aaron was cranking out hit after hit, home run after home run for almost 2 straight decades! The man was the very model of consistency. The only real thing you could detract from Aaron is his defense which was not a very strong part of his game and something he didn't really concentrate too much on.
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                            • lonewolf371
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 3420

                              #15
                              Re: Does Aaron get the nod over A-Rod?

                              Originally posted by snepp
                              poopy, and Rodriguez hasn't had some serious "protection" throughout his career?


                              Career OPS+ (accounts for ballpark)

                              155 - Aaron
                              145 - Rodriguez
                              Career wOBA (accounts for position)

                              .405 - Aaron
                              .409 - Rodriguez
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