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  • QuasiHero
    1 J*hn 4:9,10
    • Jul 2002
    • 364

    #16
    Re: who is the greatest player ever?

    the answer is either the babe or the say hey kid. as a giants fan, i'm biased toward willie mays. he hit for average, hit for power, always a threat on the basepath, and played stellar defense. plus, mays played in an integrated league when the competition level was much higher than when ruth played.
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    • TheTruth916
      All Star
      • Aug 2002
      • 5991

      #17
      Re: who is the greatest player ever?

      none of those guys are the greatest players. The Greatest player and the first black person that would have crossed over is "THE BLACK" Babe Ruth, "The Phenom" Josh Gibson
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      • TheTruth916
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        • Aug 2002
        • 5991

        #18
        Re: who is the greatest player ever?

        none of those guys are the greatest players. The Greatest player and the first black person that would have crossed over is "THE BLACK" Babe Ruth, "The Phenom" Josh Gibson
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        • TheTruth916
          All Star
          • Aug 2002
          • 5991

          #19
          Re: who is the greatest player ever?

          none of those guys are the greatest players. The Greatest player and the first black person that would have crossed over is "THE BLACK" Babe Ruth, "The Phenom" Josh Gibson
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          • thecomic
            MVP
            • Apr 2003
            • 911

            #20
            Re: who is the greatest player ever?

            Because he was also a great pitcher, I go with Ruth.

            But if we're talkin' strictly position players, I'd go with Bonds, because he is feared as much as Ruth was in an era where there are many more sluggers.

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            • thecomic
              MVP
              • Apr 2003
              • 911

              #21
              Re: who is the greatest player ever?

              Because he was also a great pitcher, I go with Ruth.

              But if we're talkin' strictly position players, I'd go with Bonds, because he is feared as much as Ruth was in an era where there are many more sluggers.

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              • thecomic
                MVP
                • Apr 2003
                • 911

                #22
                Re: who is the greatest player ever?

                Because he was also a great pitcher, I go with Ruth.

                But if we're talkin' strictly position players, I'd go with Bonds, because he is feared as much as Ruth was in an era where there are many more sluggers.

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                • mjb2124
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 13649

                  #23
                  Re: who is the greatest player ever?

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  TheTruth916 said:
                  none of those guys are the greatest players. The Greatest player and the first black person that would have crossed over is "THE BLACK" Babe Ruth, "The Phenom" Josh Gibson

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  I don't doubt Gibson's greatness because he was. However, I find it hard to call him the greatest ballplayer ever when we don't have any legitimate stats for him (at least not that I know of).

                  I've seen these numbers tossed around:

                  .391 Career BA in Negro Leagues, 962 HR in 17 seasons

                  But I've never seen anything that breaks down his numbers by season. If these are legit, then I tend to agree. I'd also be very interested to see stats if anyone has a good link to them.

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                  • mjb2124
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 13649

                    #24
                    Re: who is the greatest player ever?

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    TheTruth916 said:
                    none of those guys are the greatest players. The Greatest player and the first black person that would have crossed over is "THE BLACK" Babe Ruth, "The Phenom" Josh Gibson

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    I don't doubt Gibson's greatness because he was. However, I find it hard to call him the greatest ballplayer ever when we don't have any legitimate stats for him (at least not that I know of).

                    I've seen these numbers tossed around:

                    .391 Career BA in Negro Leagues, 962 HR in 17 seasons

                    But I've never seen anything that breaks down his numbers by season. If these are legit, then I tend to agree. I'd also be very interested to see stats if anyone has a good link to them.

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                    • mjb2124
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 13649

                      #25
                      Re: who is the greatest player ever?

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      TheTruth916 said:
                      none of those guys are the greatest players. The Greatest player and the first black person that would have crossed over is "THE BLACK" Babe Ruth, "The Phenom" Josh Gibson

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      I don't doubt Gibson's greatness because he was. However, I find it hard to call him the greatest ballplayer ever when we don't have any legitimate stats for him (at least not that I know of).

                      I've seen these numbers tossed around:

                      .391 Career BA in Negro Leagues, 962 HR in 17 seasons

                      But I've never seen anything that breaks down his numbers by season. If these are legit, then I tend to agree. I'd also be very interested to see stats if anyone has a good link to them.

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                      • jim416
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 10606

                        #26
                        Re: who is the greatest player ever?

                        Well, I"m gonna do a "what if". If Mickey Mantle was healthy......Otherwise Ruth, Mays.

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                        • jim416
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 10606

                          #27
                          Re: who is the greatest player ever?

                          Well, I"m gonna do a "what if". If Mickey Mantle was healthy......Otherwise Ruth, Mays.

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                          • jim416
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 10606

                            #28
                            Re: who is the greatest player ever?

                            Well, I"m gonna do a "what if". If Mickey Mantle was healthy......Otherwise Ruth, Mays.

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                            • Birdsonbat
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 1003

                              #29
                              Re: who is the greatest player ever?

                              I agree. If Mantle was healthy, he would have been hands down. But I will say Willie Mays for having to face all those awesome pitchers of his time.

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                              • Birdsonbat
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 1003

                                #30
                                Re: who is the greatest player ever?

                                I agree. If Mantle was healthy, he would have been hands down. But I will say Willie Mays for having to face all those awesome pitchers of his time.

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