3/31 - 4/10 Game Discussion Thread

[SPTO]

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WOO! Dotel gets out of the jam!

[bad_philanthropy]

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Wow! Dotel was crazy clutch in the 11th. Heck of a play by Hill to get the force out at home in the inning as well.

[travis72]

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Yeah, I can't wait to see how Tony spins this in his presser, I will bet you anything he pins the blame on Colby (and a share of it is absolutely his) but he will defend Franklin even though Franklin got himself into that jam in the first place.



Yeah I can't blame you I'd be enjoying it to if I were in your shoes, this is painful to watch, at least last season when we weren't a great team we were good with pitching and defense, our offense would struggle but we didn't lose games due to poor defense.

This year an offseason where Mozeliak "improved" our offense with Theriot and Berkman we are still hitting like garbage and our defense sucks now, granted Berkman is hitting better than Ludwick and Theriot is hitting better than Ryan, the fact of the matter is they aren't hitting at a good enough level to offset the defensive losses.

Theriot lost us one game when he booted a cut off throw, hes failed to make other routine plays, Berkman has no range in the outfield and cost us a run tonight due to that.

This team is just painfully bad, thankfully Holliday will be back soon but no way of knowing how long or quickly he'll find his stroke again after surgery.

I have lost faith in Mozeliak, the Holliday trade looks like a good one since he'll likely be the face of the offense after Pujols leaves this offseason (I can't see him staying unless DeWitt decides to boost payroll significantly), but other than that I'm not impressed with him at all.

Trading Chris Perez for Mark DeRosa, stupid, that would be our closer right there, instead we got part of a season (a small part) of an oft injured 3B who even if healthy wouldn't have been worth parting with Perez.

Ludwick for Westbrook I hate just because Westbrook seems to get pounded far too often, if he got run support he might be fine but as it stands he isn't a front half of the rotation starter, and he got thrust into the #2 spot due to the Wainwright injury, but even if Waino was healthy Westbrook isn't a passable #3 starter, he is a #4 at best and he gets paid too much on top of all that.

Theriot signing and trading Ryan for nothing don't even get me started, Ryan couldn't hit but he played great defense and that is far more valuable for this team than the minor offensive upgrade Theriot offers which is no power but some slap hit singles.

Mozeliak sucks and this team isn't going to be contending for a while again, if this keeps up we'll likely see Carpenter dealt at the deadline and once Pujols leaves in FA we'll be rebuilding with our offense centered around Holliday and Rasmus and rotation around Garcia and a hopefully recovered Wainwright.

Barring injuries the Reds should have control of this division for a while.

You make a lot of good points on their roster. I would have to agree with your assessment of those roster moves. Do you really think Pujols will leave? Of course I hope he goes to the AL,lol, but I think the Cards will get him signed.
Just wouldn't be right if us and the Cards are not battling it out for the division. I hate the cards out of respect for you guys always being so good and I do hope you right the ship and finish 2nd,lol. I truely can not stand the majority of the Brewers players so I hope its you guys were battling it out against and not them.

Injuries of course will ultimately decide our fate i believe. We need Rolen healthy because I do not have a lot of faith in Francisco if he has to play 3rd base for a extended period of time it will not be a good thing.

[berenjena]

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Let's go Jays! win this thing!

[SPTO]

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Aw man...Bautista popped out on what was Ball 4

[IlliniM1ke]

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You make a lot of good points on their roster. I would have to agree with your assessment of those roster moves. Do you really think Pujols will leave? Of course I hope he goes to the AL,lol, but I think the Cards will get him signed.
Just wouldn't be right if us and the Cards are not battling it out for the division. I hate the cards out of respect for you guys always being so good and I do hope you right the ship and finish 2nd,lol. I truely can not stand the majority of the Brewers players so I hope its you guys were battling it out against and not them.

Injuries of course will ultimately decide our fate i believe. We need Rolen healthy because I do not have a lot of faith in Francisco if he has to play 3rd base for a extended period of time it will not be a good thing.

I do think Pujols will leave, I just can't see the Cards signing him unless DeWitt is ready to commit to a 120 mil a year payroll, theres no point in keeping him if we're going to he tying up nearly 1/3 of our 100 mil a year payroll in him, if hes willing to make a 20 mil+/year jump in payroll then I think we'll keep him.

As it stands I'm with you, if he leaves I hope he goes to the AL (Angels are the only suitor there that makes much sense financially unless the Sox for some reason decide not to sign AGon which I can't see happening and I guess you can never fully count the Yankees out but I can't see that with them having Teixiera), I have a really sinking feeling he ends up going to the Cubs though and that is my true nightmare scenario.

[Chaos81]

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Loving all these extra inning games we've had.

[bad_philanthropy]

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Come on Jays! Stop stranding runners so I can get to bed.

[snepp]

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Mozeliak is a terrible GM, this team is so poorly constructed, such a poor defensive team and defense is typically one of our strong suits, this team is just hard to watch.

Walt Jocketty says...

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[travis72]

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I do think Pujols will leave, I just can't see the Cards signing him unless DeWitt is ready to commit to a 120 mil a year payroll, theres no point in keeping him if we're going to he tying up nearly 1/3 of our 100 mil a year payroll in him, if hes willing to make a 20 mil+/year jump in payroll then I think we'll keep him.

As it stands I'm with you, if he leaves I hope he goes to the AL (Angels are the only suitor there that makes much sense financially unless the Sox for some reason decide not to sign AGon which I can't see happening and I guess you can never fully count the Yankees out but I can't see that with them having Teixiera), I have a really sinking feeling he ends up going to the Cubs though and that is my true nightmare scenario.

I think he wants to be with a winner so I can't see him going to the Cubs,lol. My wife would be happy as she and her family are huge Cubs fans. It makes for a interesting summer or i should say a couple of months till there out of contention,lol. Cub fans are great thou no matter what they always stick by there team which I admire. Great to see people support there team and come out whether there good or bad.

[SPTO]

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Come on Jays! Stop stranding runners so I can get to bed.

This game started at 9 and we're nearing 2 AM!

I wonder if it'll go so long that we see starters on the mound LOL

[bad_philanthropy]

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This game started at 9 and we're nearing 2 AM!

I wonder if it'll go so long that we see starters on the mound LOL

Looks like it. Angels have Haren warming up.

[SPTO]

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WHAT A BS CALL BY THE 3B UMP!

Wow....That was brutal.

[bad_philanthropy]

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WTF!? Are you kidding me on that obstruction call!?

Just awful!

[SPTO]

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Well if the Jays lose I blame it all on Bob Davidson. Escobar did nothing wrong there.