Felix Hernandez

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Best starting pitcher in the game?

I'm biased, but if I needed a win, he's the guy I'm sending to the hill.

Two straight sub 2.5 ERA seasons in the AL, and is still only 24. It's crazy to think that this is his SEVENTH season.

I'm not going to say he's better than Halladay, Lee, Lincecum yet... I'm just asking the question...

[snepp]

Re: Felix Hernandez

He's alright.

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Re: Felix Hernandez

He's alright.

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[Kobalt]

Re: Felix Hernandez

I still think Halladay is better but he's right behind him.

[JBH3]

Re: Felix Hernandez

Roy Halladay.

[Coug00]

Re: Felix Hernandez

He's alright.

Piñeda's better.

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Re: Felix Hernandez

Can I get some reasons on why Halladay is better?

I'm just not seeing it. Halladay is great, but Felix's last two seasons trump Halladay's two best seasons in Toronto, IMO.

[berenjena]

Re: Felix Hernandez

Can I get some reasons on why Halladay is better?

I'm just not seeing it. Halladay is great, but Felix's last two seasons trump Halladay's two best seasons in Toronto, IMO.

Halladay al east... Felix al west

[Chip Douglass]

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I'm just not seeing it. Halladay is great, but Felix's last two seasons trump Halladay's two best seasons in Toronto, IMO.

That's not even close to being true.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: Felix Hernandez

I think Halladay is the best in the game, but Felix is pretty much 1a.

Really though, we're so blessed right now to be in a time with so much incredible starting pitching. The amount of (especially YOUNG) pitching talent floating around is freakin' amazing.

[WazzuRC]

Re: Felix Hernandez

Halladay al east... Felix al west

Have you seen Felix's numbers vs. the AL East (specifically Yankees and Red Sox)? They're ridiculous.

To me, obviously, there's no pitcher I want more than Felix.

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Re: Felix Hernandez

That's not even close to being true.

I know you're damn good as far as your baseball knowledge so I don't wish to get in a debate, but Halladay had only one season with a sub-2.5 ERA... He won one AL Cy Young award (like Felix).

Felix gets more K's; Halladay walks less guys.

Over the past two seasons, Felix has an ERA+ of 172 and 174, respectively.

Halladay's best two years, he had an ERA+ of 185 and 159.

Felix's best two years of WAR are 6.2 and 5.8, while Halladay's are 7.5 and 6.9.

I am pretty ignorant when it comes to all the new stats, and while I will admit that I am biased with Felix, I do think it is close... After looking at the numbers I take the statement back and give the nod to Halladay, especially considering that during his time in the AL, he pitched in the toughest division in baseball, though Felix's numbers versus the East are pretty impressive in their own right.

Felix needs a bit more consistency, too. His last two years have been sick, but Halladay was consistently dominant over a course of several years.

I think in a couple years, this could be revisited and the outcome could definitely change. At 24, Felix is just getting better.

[55]

Re: Felix Hernandez

I'm just not seeing it. Halladay is great, but Felix's last two seasons trump Halladay's two best seasons in Toronto, IMO.

I usually enjoy your posts and you as a poster in general, but that is just pure ridiculousness right there.

[JBH3]

Re: Felix Hernandez

Can I get some reasons on why Halladay is better?

I'm just not seeing it. Halladay is great, but Felix's last two seasons trump Halladay's two best seasons in Toronto, IMO.

I never would've imagined that someone would have to prove why Halladay is better.

I know you're damn good as far as your baseball knowledge so I don't wish to get in a debate, but Halladay had only one season with a sub-2.5 ERA... He won one AL Cy Young award (like Felix).

Felix gets more K's; Halladay walks less guys.

Over the past two seasons, Felix has an ERA+ of 172 and 174, respectively.

Halladay's best two years, he had an ERA+ of 185 and 159.

Felix's best two years of WAR are 6.2 and 5.8, while Halladay's are 7.5 and 6.9.

I am pretty ignorant when it comes to all the new stats, and while I will admit that I am biased with Felix, I do think it is close... After looking at the numbers I take the statement back and give the nod to Halladay, especially considering that during his time in the AL, he pitched in the toughest division in baseball, though Felix's numbers versus the East are pretty impressive in their own right.

Felix needs a bit more consistency, too. His last two years have been sick, but Halladay was consistently dominant over a course of several years.

I think in a couple years, this could be revisited and the outcome could definitely change. At 24, Felix is just getting better.

The Red Sox teams that Halladay faced in the early/mid 2000's were far superior than the last few years. Namely the 2003 Sox who scored the most runs out of any Red Sox club in the 2000's.

I think that there's not much seperating Halladay and Felix in terms of dominance. Both dominate the game. Both induce the groundball quite frequently. Felix might be the better K artist, then again, he has had the luxury of facing opposing AL West teams 10+more times a season than Halladay. Fact.

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Re: Felix Hernandez

I usually enjoy your posts and you as a poster in general, but that is just pure ridiculousness right there.

I appreciate it 55, but did you see my last post? Especially the part in bold:

I know you're damn good as far as your baseball knowledge so I don't wish to get in a debate, but Halladay had only one season with a sub-2.5 ERA... He won one AL Cy Young award (like Felix).

Felix gets more K's; Halladay walks less guys.

Over the past two seasons, Felix has an ERA+ of 172 and 174, respectively.

Halladay's best two years, he had an ERA+ of 185 and 159.

Felix's best two years of WAR are 6.2 and 5.8, while Halladay's are 7.5 and 6.9.

I am pretty ignorant when it comes to all the new stats, and while I will admit that I am biased with Felix, I do think it is close... After looking at the numbers I take the statement back and give the nod to Halladay, especially considering that during his time in the AL, he pitched in the toughest division in baseball, though Felix's numbers versus the East are pretty impressive in their own right.

Felix needs a bit more consistency, too. His last two years have been sick, but Halladay was consistently dominant over a course of several years.

I think in a couple years, this could be revisited and the outcome could definitely change. At 24, Felix is just getting better.