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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42520

    #16
    Re: Individual LOB question

    Originally posted by Baughn3
    A sac fly is only counted when a runner scores. So hitting a fly ball to RF and a runner moves up from 2nd to 3rd is not considered an official sacrifice fly. Fielder's choices are also official at-bats. Hitters don't get credited for LOB for walks, HBPs, sac bunts or sac flys because those are not counted as official at-bats
    Haha I'm well aware of the sacrifice fly situation, but I was actually referring to an instance with, say, runners on the corners and the runner on third scores on a fly out. The only reason I really questioned sacrifice fly is because, unlike sacrifice bunting, you're not literally giving up your entire plate appearance simply to move a runner over because a fly ball isn't an ultimate control situation (and can lead to more or less as a result of a fly ball), which is why it affects your on-base percentage when a sacrifice bunt does not.

    The only reason I asked about the fielder's choice was because you said it only counts for official at-bats where you (the batter-runner) doesn't reach base, which is not the proper description for a fielder's choice where another runner is retired. And you also have to consider that not all fielder's choice plays actually do retire a runner, and neither would reaching base on an error (for the most part). Heck, neither would a dropped third strike.

    Okay, so let's run it down then. Do I have these resulting plays that will increase your individual LOB correct? (check the bold terms)

    Ground out
    Fly out
    Strike out

    Sacrifice bunt
    Sacrifice fly
    Ground into double/triple play
    Reach on error
    Fielder's choice
    Fielder's choice (everybody safe)
    Batter interference

    Originally posted by thaSLAB
    LOL, I wouldn't say that much, but I guess you could look at it as a more refined/detailed BA RISP stat.

    I always said, the more metrics, the better LOL
    Yeah, I'm already tracking certain splits like how batters do in certain counts and with certain runners on (as well as RISP). I just needed to find out which of these would affect this statistic as well though. I think I should watch a game with a sacrifice fly or fielder's choice and see what happens to their LOB number.
    Last edited by Blzer; 06-03-2011, 09:46 AM.
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