2011 MLB Trade Deadline Thread

[Dog]

Re: 2011 MLB Trade Deadline Thread

Want:

Bell/Ludwick (don't want to give up too much, so I won't be happy if this goes down really)
Michael Bourn
Justin Upton
Michael Cuddyer
Koji Uehara
Hunter Pence


The last one is the one I really want

[TCM]

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With Revere playing the way he is I wouldn't mind seeing Denard Span getting shipped off. I don't think Cuddyer is going anywhere (Central isn't out of reach yet).

[Psyblast]

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Can't wait to see what valuable prospect the Tigers give up for some fringe player having a fluke season, likely a starting pitcher over 30.

[snepp]

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With Revere playing the way he is I wouldn't mind seeing Denard Span getting shipped off. I don't think Cuddyer is going anywhere (Central isn't out of reach yet).

You mean the zero walks, zero power, zero arm, .600 OPS Ben Revere?


Oh yeah, he's definitely the kind of guy you want to intentionally create a hole on the roster for.

[av7]

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Rockies need an outfielder or just someone who knows what a bat is.

They also need a lefty for the back of the rotation since De La Rosa is done for the season.

[TCM]

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You mean the zero walks, zero power, zero arm, .600 OPS Ben Revere?


Oh yeah, he's definitely the kind of guy you want to intentionally create a hole on the roster for.

Have you ever seen him play? That's probably a no. He's an outstanding center fielder but you probably wouldn't know because there isn't stat for that. He's only 23 so he's still just a kid, the number of walks will increase. But complaining about power? Not everyone is Mike Stanton especially a speedy center fielder. That's like saying Ichiro is bad because he can't hit 30 Homers.

[snepp]

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It's a pretty safe bet that I've seen a Twins game or two......or all of them. Something you'd realize if you'd been around for more than a month.

He has fantastic range, but that noodle attached to his shoulder really hurts him. It's easily amongst the worst outfield arms in the game, and it's not going to get any stronger over time. He has never walked a whole lot, that isn't something that's going to change much now that he's in the majors, especially given his complete lack of power. There's little reason not to throw him something over the plate, worst case he dumps a single somewhere.

The power complaint isn't about him not being a power hitter, it's about his having *zero* power to speak of. He's effectively Jason Tyner in the power department, which means that he needs to excel in other areas to cover for it, which as of now he doesn't do.

As for your Stanton/Ichiro strawman-fest, awful, just awful.

He could be a useful starter, preferably a super-sub 4th outfielder, but he is most definitely not the kind of player that you go out of your way to create an opening for, especially by trading your only quality all-around outfield option.



Btw, they do have stats for that.

[ImTellinTim]

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I've heard a lot of Twins fans around here hyping up Revere too. I'm with snepp, though. You don't trade Span away to make room for him.

Remember the game they lost to the White Sox? Span at least has a chance to throw the guy out that scored the winning run. Revere's throw was on line, but looked like it was in slow motion.

If the Twins are going to be buyers - bullpen, bullpen, bullpen. I'd love to go back to complaining about the Crainwreck right now. At least he'd have good outings between hanging sliders to give up leads. The likes of Burnett and Dumatrait, who bathe in gasoline and rub flintstones together for fun, are starting to wear their welcome.

You know that the Twins are going to pull a Wild this year when it comes to getting a bat. The old "getting guys off the DL is just like trading for a new guy" routine.

[snepp]

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Trading Span away just to open a spot for Revere would be akin to trading Hardy away to open up a spot for Casilla. That just isn't something "contenders" should be doing at difficult-to-replace positions (SS/C/CF) unless there's a high quality replacement ready to go.

Want to open a spot for Revere? Do it by dumping one of the lumbering corner outfielders and give him time in left. Delmon Young sucks, Cuddyer's contract is up, and Kubel is still better suited for DH (as well as a FA to be). Dealing away the only guaranteed outfield production would be a horrible mistake.

[Marino]

Re: 2011 MLB Trade Deadline Thread

Want:

Bell/Ludwick (don't want to give up too much, so I won't be happy if this goes down really)
Michael Bourn
Justin Upton
Michael Cuddyer
Koji Uehara
Hunter Pence


The last one is the one I really want

No way Upton is traded.

[ImTellinTim]

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Want:
Michael Cuddyer

Who would you see Philly going after Cuddy with?

[TCM]

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Trading Span away just to open a spot for Revere would be akin to trading Hardy away to open up a spot for Casilla.

That just isn't something "contenders" should be doing at difficult-to-replace positions (SS/C/CF) unless there's a high quality replacement ready to go.

Want to open a spot for Revere? Do it by dumping one of the lumbering corner outfielders and give him time in left. Delmon Young sucks, Cuddyer's contract is up, and Kubel is still better suited for DH (as well as a FA to be). Dealing away the only guaranteed outfield production would be a horrible mistake.

I took your first post the wrong way, sorry about that. Delmon is a liability in left for sure but his bat isn't something I think we need to get rid of. I think Kubel and Cuddyer need to go for some new bullpen arms and move Young to right. I'm sure we could make a deal with the Padres and get some good arms.

[snepp]

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Who would you see Philly going after Cuddy with?

A mediocre reliever or two, what else would Bill Smith target?

[snepp]

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I took your first post the wrong way, sorry about that. Delmon is a liability in left for sure but his bat isn't something I think we need to get rid of. I think Kubel and Cuddyer need to go for some new bullpen arms and move Young to right. I'm sure we could make a deal with the Padres and get some good arms.

I have the tendency to be overly harsh where Revere is concerned due to the over-hyping he's received. It's not that he wouldn't be a useful player, or improve, just that as-is he isn't the kind of player you should go out of your way to create a guaranteed full-time spot for.

Although trading Delmon and giving Revere the full-time left field spot would probably be at least a decent upgrade. I wouldn't object.

[ImTellinTim]

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A mediocre reliever or two, what else would Bill Smith target?

Too bad they don't still have JC Romero!