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  • mjb2124
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    • Aug 2002
    • 13649

    #76
    Re: CUBS!!!!!

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    cdastros said:
    Wood, Zembrano, Clement are overated imo.

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    So is Russ Ortiz.. he's actually one of the most medicore pitchers in baseball.

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    Didn't Ortiz win 21 games this year?? I wouldn't call that overrated. However, I didn't look deeply into his numbers...

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    Congratulations on your admission of guilt. Ortiz was one of the worst 20 game winners in a long time. Maybe next time you *should* look into the numbers a little bit. Ortiz's numbers were a product of a great offense and solid defense. Put him on a sub-par team and he's crap.

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    Why the heck are you jumping down my throat??? I never said anything to recieve that type of attitude. Just that I saw he had 21 wins, that's it. Yes I didn't look into the numbers because my girlfriend was over and I didn't feel like looking up all his stats. I'd actually rather pay attention to her than sit on the internet looking for stats (some of us DO have lives and not just internet ones). I don't think I deserved that kind of response.



    PS - I know more about baseball and stat's than most people. I'm very big into Sabermetrics which is the mathematical and stat analysis of baseball records/stats. After looking deeper I see that he had a horrendous 1.31 WHIP - and we all should know that WHIP according to sabermetricians is one of the most telling pitcher stats.

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    • Jodaddy
      Rookie
      • Aug 2002
      • 247

      #77
      Re: CUBS!!!!!

      The trap that most people fall into is looking at WINS to decide whether a pitcher is good or bad. Russ Ortiz has 21 wins, but has an era in the 3.80's. Hell, Mark Prior, Kerry Wood, or Carlos Zambrano would have 25+ wins with Atlanta's offense.

      Calling Kerry Wood underrated is absurd. Kerry should easily have 20 wins this year, were it not for blown leads by the bullpen or lack of run support. Other than a 4 to 5 game stretch last month when he couldn't get anyone out (supposedly because of a bad back), Kerry Wood has been lights out for the most part this year. He leads the league in strikeouts, he's 2nd in opp. BA, and he has a very respectable ERA of 3.20.


      The fact is that the Cubs have a good chance to upset Atlanta. Nobody knows if they will, but I think we can all agree that the they have a shot

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      • Jodaddy
        Rookie
        • Aug 2002
        • 247

        #78
        Re: CUBS!!!!!

        The trap that most people fall into is looking at WINS to decide whether a pitcher is good or bad. Russ Ortiz has 21 wins, but has an era in the 3.80's. Hell, Mark Prior, Kerry Wood, or Carlos Zambrano would have 25+ wins with Atlanta's offense.

        Calling Kerry Wood underrated is absurd. Kerry should easily have 20 wins this year, were it not for blown leads by the bullpen or lack of run support. Other than a 4 to 5 game stretch last month when he couldn't get anyone out (supposedly because of a bad back), Kerry Wood has been lights out for the most part this year. He leads the league in strikeouts, he's 2nd in opp. BA, and he has a very respectable ERA of 3.20.


        The fact is that the Cubs have a good chance to upset Atlanta. Nobody knows if they will, but I think we can all agree that the they have a shot

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        • Jodaddy
          Rookie
          • Aug 2002
          • 247

          #79
          Re: CUBS!!!!!

          The trap that most people fall into is looking at WINS to decide whether a pitcher is good or bad. Russ Ortiz has 21 wins, but has an era in the 3.80's. Hell, Mark Prior, Kerry Wood, or Carlos Zambrano would have 25+ wins with Atlanta's offense.

          Calling Kerry Wood underrated is absurd. Kerry should easily have 20 wins this year, were it not for blown leads by the bullpen or lack of run support. Other than a 4 to 5 game stretch last month when he couldn't get anyone out (supposedly because of a bad back), Kerry Wood has been lights out for the most part this year. He leads the league in strikeouts, he's 2nd in opp. BA, and he has a very respectable ERA of 3.20.


          The fact is that the Cubs have a good chance to upset Atlanta. Nobody knows if they will, but I think we can all agree that the they have a shot

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          • SPTO
            binging
            • Feb 2003
            • 68046

            #80
            Re: CUBS!!!!!

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            Nokona said:
            I'd like you to meet Furcal, Giles, Chipper, Andruw, Sheff, Fick, Javy, and Castilla.

            They will be your demise.

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            Let me give you a famous baseball quote:

            "great pitching ALWAYS beats great offense"

            The Braves will choke like they do every October.

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            This from a Bill fan ? I remember your team CHOKING in 4 SB's. lmao.

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            Meh....Last I checked the Bills don't play baseball. At least my Blue Jays never choked in the playoffs. Well they sorta did in '85 but that was bad managing by.......BOBBY COX!

            I think we found the reason why the Braves have choked
            Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

            "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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            • SPTO
              binging
              • Feb 2003
              • 68046

              #81
              Re: CUBS!!!!!

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              FalcFan4life86 said:
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              SportsmanTO said:
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              Nokona said:
              I'd like you to meet Furcal, Giles, Chipper, Andruw, Sheff, Fick, Javy, and Castilla.

              They will be your demise.

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              Let me give you a famous baseball quote:

              "great pitching ALWAYS beats great offense"

              The Braves will choke like they do every October.

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              This from a Bill fan ? I remember your team CHOKING in 4 SB's. lmao.

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              Meh....Last I checked the Bills don't play baseball. At least my Blue Jays never choked in the playoffs. Well they sorta did in '85 but that was bad managing by.......BOBBY COX!

              I think we found the reason why the Braves have choked
              Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

              "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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              • SPTO
                binging
                • Feb 2003
                • 68046

                #82
                Re: CUBS!!!!!

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                FalcFan4life86 said:
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                SportsmanTO said:
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                Nokona said:
                I'd like you to meet Furcal, Giles, Chipper, Andruw, Sheff, Fick, Javy, and Castilla.

                They will be your demise.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Let me give you a famous baseball quote:

                "great pitching ALWAYS beats great offense"

                The Braves will choke like they do every October.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                This from a Bill fan ? I remember your team CHOKING in 4 SB's. lmao.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Meh....Last I checked the Bills don't play baseball. At least my Blue Jays never choked in the playoffs. Well they sorta did in '85 but that was bad managing by.......BOBBY COX!

                I think we found the reason why the Braves have choked
                Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                • cdastros
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 148

                  #83
                  Re: CUBS!!!!!

                  This is how the braves series will go.

                  Game1: Wood dominates the braves as the Cubs win the opener.

                  Game2: The overrated Zebrano gets tattooed by the Braves offense. Series tied 1 to 1

                  Game3: Pitchers duel between Maddox and Prior (the only truly dominate pitcher the Cubs have). The Cubs will have the lead only to see the bullpen implode. Braves up 2 to 1

                  Gave4: Wood comes back on short rest and shows why he is overrated and gets killed by the Braves offense but so does Ramirez as this is an offensive explosion. The Braves win the slugfest to end the series in 4.

                  Cub fans you will finally see what it is like to be an Astros fan. You will win the division only to get bitch slaped by the Braves. Have you fun celebrating because by the end of this series you will all be posting the same thing that I did. Zambrano, Wood, Clement are overated IMO

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                  • cdastros
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 148

                    #84
                    Re: CUBS!!!!!

                    This is how the braves series will go.

                    Game1: Wood dominates the braves as the Cubs win the opener.

                    Game2: The overrated Zebrano gets tattooed by the Braves offense. Series tied 1 to 1

                    Game3: Pitchers duel between Maddox and Prior (the only truly dominate pitcher the Cubs have). The Cubs will have the lead only to see the bullpen implode. Braves up 2 to 1

                    Gave4: Wood comes back on short rest and shows why he is overrated and gets killed by the Braves offense but so does Ramirez as this is an offensive explosion. The Braves win the slugfest to end the series in 4.

                    Cub fans you will finally see what it is like to be an Astros fan. You will win the division only to get bitch slaped by the Braves. Have you fun celebrating because by the end of this series you will all be posting the same thing that I did. Zambrano, Wood, Clement are overated IMO

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                    • cdastros
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 148

                      #85
                      Re: CUBS!!!!!

                      This is how the braves series will go.

                      Game1: Wood dominates the braves as the Cubs win the opener.

                      Game2: The overrated Zebrano gets tattooed by the Braves offense. Series tied 1 to 1

                      Game3: Pitchers duel between Maddox and Prior (the only truly dominate pitcher the Cubs have). The Cubs will have the lead only to see the bullpen implode. Braves up 2 to 1

                      Gave4: Wood comes back on short rest and shows why he is overrated and gets killed by the Braves offense but so does Ramirez as this is an offensive explosion. The Braves win the slugfest to end the series in 4.

                      Cub fans you will finally see what it is like to be an Astros fan. You will win the division only to get bitch slaped by the Braves. Have you fun celebrating because by the end of this series you will all be posting the same thing that I did. Zambrano, Wood, Clement are overated IMO

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                      • SportsMonger
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 863

                        #86
                        Re: CUBS!!!!!

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                        cdastros said:
                        This is how the braves series will go.

                        Game1: Wood dominates the braves as the Cubs win the opener.

                        Game2: The overrated Zebrano gets tattooed by the Braves offense. Series tied 1 to 1

                        Game3: Pitchers duel between Maddox and Prior (the only truly dominate pitcher the Cubs have). The Cubs will have the lead only to see the bullpen implode. Braves up 2 to 1

                        Gave4: Wood comes back on short rest and shows why he is overrated and gets killed by the Braves offense but so does Ramirez as this is an offensive explosion. The Braves win the slugfest to end the series in 4.

                        Cub fans you will finally see what it is like to be an Astros fan. You will win the division only to get bitch slaped by the Braves. Have you fun celebrating because by the end of this series you will all be posting the same thing that I did. Zambrano, Wood, Clement are overated IMO

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                        Will you ask Ms. Cleo if I will get that new Job.... Our #3 starter is as good as Houstons ace...

                        Get real man... Zambano would be your #1 man... Look at the Numbers...

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                        • SportsMonger
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 863

                          #87
                          Re: CUBS!!!!!

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                          cdastros said:
                          This is how the braves series will go.

                          Game1: Wood dominates the braves as the Cubs win the opener.

                          Game2: The overrated Zebrano gets tattooed by the Braves offense. Series tied 1 to 1

                          Game3: Pitchers duel between Maddox and Prior (the only truly dominate pitcher the Cubs have). The Cubs will have the lead only to see the bullpen implode. Braves up 2 to 1

                          Gave4: Wood comes back on short rest and shows why he is overrated and gets killed by the Braves offense but so does Ramirez as this is an offensive explosion. The Braves win the slugfest to end the series in 4.

                          Cub fans you will finally see what it is like to be an Astros fan. You will win the division only to get bitch slaped by the Braves. Have you fun celebrating because by the end of this series you will all be posting the same thing that I did. Zambrano, Wood, Clement are overated IMO

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                          Will you ask Ms. Cleo if I will get that new Job.... Our #3 starter is as good as Houstons ace...

                          Get real man... Zambano would be your #1 man... Look at the Numbers...

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                          • SportsMonger
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 863

                            #88
                            Re: CUBS!!!!!

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                            cdastros said:
                            This is how the braves series will go.

                            Game1: Wood dominates the braves as the Cubs win the opener.

                            Game2: The overrated Zebrano gets tattooed by the Braves offense. Series tied 1 to 1

                            Game3: Pitchers duel between Maddox and Prior (the only truly dominate pitcher the Cubs have). The Cubs will have the lead only to see the bullpen implode. Braves up 2 to 1

                            Gave4: Wood comes back on short rest and shows why he is overrated and gets killed by the Braves offense but so does Ramirez as this is an offensive explosion. The Braves win the slugfest to end the series in 4.

                            Cub fans you will finally see what it is like to be an Astros fan. You will win the division only to get bitch slaped by the Braves. Have you fun celebrating because by the end of this series you will all be posting the same thing that I did. Zambrano, Wood, Clement are overated IMO

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                            Will you ask Ms. Cleo if I will get that new Job.... Our #3 starter is as good as Houstons ace...

                            Get real man... Zambano would be your #1 man... Look at the Numbers...

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                            • SportsMonger
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 863

                              #89
                              Re: CUBS!!!!!

                              If your going to be a sore loser.....Make your own thread *****...

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                              • SportsMonger
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 863

                                #90
                                Re: CUBS!!!!!

                                If your going to be a sore loser.....Make your own thread *****...

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