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  • Marino
    Moderator
    • Jan 2008
    • 18113

    #256
    Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

    Originally posted by Travis40
    So while going through bankruptcy, MLB didn't allow the Rangers to spend a few more million to sign Matt Purke. They also didn't allow the Rangers to extend any of their players, and were basically forced to throw Blake Beavan in to offset Cliff Lee's remaining salary, but they allow the Dodgers to spend $160 million?

    Keep trollin', MLB


    Great for the Dodgers. It's good to see star players stay in one place for basically their entire career, but it's odd to see MLB let the Dodgers do this before their ownership deal goes through.
    Umm, Adrian Beltre?

    EDIT: Also, MLB took over the Dodgers during the summer and said they will only do moves that will help benefit the Dodgers in the long term until the new ownership comes in.
    Last edited by Marino; 11-14-2011, 08:48 PM.

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    • The Kid 24
      It's Show Time!
      • Jan 2007
      • 14768

      #257
      Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

      Originally posted by SPTO
      Ozzie's had to deal with lazy *** Alex Rios for a season and a half I think he can handle Hanley in center.
      Yea good point...
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      • The Kid 24
        It's Show Time!
        • Jan 2007
        • 14768

        #258
        Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

        Originally posted by Travis40
        Great for the Dodgers. It's good to see star players stay in one place for basically their entire career, but it's odd to see MLB let the Dodgers do this before their ownership deal goes through.
        I agree that's awesome for Matty and the Dodgers... I just wish we had this same problem with Prince... **** YOU SCOTT BORAS!!
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        • Reaman
          MVP
          • Jun 2009
          • 2917

          #259
          Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

          He's even scarier.

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          • CabreraMVP
            MVP
            • Sep 2010
            • 1437

            #260
            Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

            Prado for Delmon Young is really starting to look more realistic. Freddi Gonzalez said they are looking for a right handed hitter corner outfielder with power. Also known as Delmon Young. He said he cant' say Yes or No as to whether they are talking with Detroit about Young. If the Tigers throw in a solid prospect I think they'll have a deal.

            The Braves could want Raburn. He's a better hitter than Young, and has been the best hitter in the baseball in the 2nd half since 2008. He can hit when he gets going.

            Young doesn't get on base and can't play defense, but if were hitting 6th or 7th in the Braves lineup he'd be a good fit. I bet he would hit close to 20 HR and around .290.
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            • l3ulvl
              Hall Of Fame
              • Dec 2009
              • 17257

              #261
              Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

              Originally posted by CabreraMVP
              Prado for Delmon Young is really starting to look more realistic. Freddi Gonzalez said they are looking for a right handed hitter corner outfielder with power. Also known as Delmon Young. He said he cant' say Yes or No as to whether they are talking with Detroit about Young. If the Tigers throw in a solid prospect I think they'll have a deal.

              The Braves could want Raburn. He's a better hitter than Young, and has been the best hitter in the baseball in the 2nd half since 2008. He can hit when he gets going.

              Young doesn't get on base and can't play defense, but if were hitting 6th or 7th in the Braves lineup he'd be a good fit. I bet he would hit close to 20 HR and around .290.
              Wow, if Raburn is the missing piece to make that deal work... just wow. I'd pack his bags for him and drive him to the airport.
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              • CabreraMVP
                MVP
                • Sep 2010
                • 1437

                #262
                Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                Haha I want to keep him though. .370 hitter with power in the 2nd half, over the past 4 seasons. Highest average in the AL.

                I still think he should just show up to the team in June, but hey.

                If we could get Prado at 2nd base, sign Dejesus or Crisp to play LF, and all the sudden you have two guys who can hit at the top of the lineup other than Jackson. And in the OF all the sudden you have 2 great defenders out there, and another threat to run in the lineup. And Dejesus or Crisp wouldn't even cost much, but they would address all of Detroit's needs.
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                • Travis40
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1651

                  #263
                  Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                  Originally posted by Marino
                  Umm, Adrian Beltre?

                  EDIT: Also, MLB took over the Dodgers during the summer and said they will only do moves that will help benefit the Dodgers in the long term until the new ownership comes in.
                  Beltre signed after the new ownership group took over. I just don't get why MLB will allow the Dodgers to pay that kind of money for a guy who isn't even a FA, but they wouldn't let the Rangers spend a few million to sign a draft pick. If MLB didn't allow the Rangers to do that, I don't think MLB should've allowed the Dodgers to extend Kemp until the new group takes over.

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                  • SPTO
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                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #264
                    Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                    Goodness Papelbon looks like a psycho in that pic.
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                    • Sportsforever
                      NL MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 20368

                      #265
                      Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                      Originally posted by CabreraMVP
                      Prado for Delmon Young is really starting to look more realistic. Freddi Gonzalez said they are looking for a right handed hitter corner outfielder with power. Also known as Delmon Young. He said he cant' say Yes or No as to whether they are talking with Detroit about Young. If the Tigers throw in a solid prospect I think they'll have a deal.

                      The Braves could want Raburn. He's a better hitter than Young, and has been the best hitter in the baseball in the 2nd half since 2008. He can hit when he gets going.

                      Young doesn't get on base and can't play defense, but if were hitting 6th or 7th in the Braves lineup he'd be a good fit. I bet he would hit close to 20 HR and around .290.
                      Get out of here with this "best hitter in baseball in the 2nd half since 2008" crap...they play 162 games/year and Raburn has shown he is a platoon player at best.

                      Seriously, if Wren gives up Prado for either one of those stiffs I'll be pissed...a lot of trash is still a lot of trash.
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                      • ty5oke
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 2912

                        #266
                        Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                        10.5 WAR over last 4 years for Prado, .7 WAR over last 4 years for young.. Don't do this Wren..
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                        • rdnk
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                          • Feb 2009
                          • 5730

                          #267
                          Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                          Well Prado fills two of our needs with one player- a top of the order bat and a 2B who can play passable defense. I'm just curious as two who would be the other player(s) going back with Young in the deal? We don't want this to be Rentaria part two (actually, the Braves owe us for two deals). Don't trade Turner, Smyly or Castellianos (not a pitcher, but still) Dombrowski.

                          Then we could sign a DeJesus, Cepedes, Crisp ect to play in LF.
                          Last edited by rdnk; 11-15-2011, 02:01 PM.
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                          • Marino
                            Moderator
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 18113

                            #268
                            Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                            Originally posted by Travis40
                            Beltre signed after the new ownership group took over. I just don't get why MLB will allow the Dodgers to pay that kind of money for a guy who isn't even a FA, but they wouldn't let the Rangers spend a few million to sign a draft pick. If MLB didn't allow the Rangers to do that, I don't think MLB should've allowed the Dodgers to extend Kemp until the new group takes over.
                            Well I do. Of course after such great news, Colletti goes and does something stupid like 8.5 million for 2 years for Mark Ellis.

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                            • Jgainsey
                              I can't feel it
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 3362

                              #269
                              Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                              Seriously doubt a Young/Prado deal goes down.

                              The Braves don't need to move him. Unless they're getting a good prospect or two in the deal, and Detroit sends a decent amount of cash(Young is projected to make a few million more than Prado next year), it simply isn't going to happen.

                              The Braves are looking for possible upgrades in the OF and SS this off season. They're also looking for salary relief when it comes to a trade involving Prado, with the exception being a deal that completely knocks their socks off... So where exactly does a Young/Prado deal fit into any of that?
                              Last edited by Jgainsey; 11-15-2011, 02:54 PM.
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                              • CabreraMVP
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 1437

                                #270
                                Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                                Originally posted by Sportsforever
                                Get out of here with this "best hitter in baseball in the 2nd half since 2008" crap...they play 162 games/year and Raburn has shown he is a platoon player at best.

                                Seriously, if Wren gives up Prado for either one of those stiffs I'll be pissed...a lot of trash is still a lot of trash.
                                2nd half stats
                                2009: .310/.369/.563/ .933 OPS (63 games)

                                2010: .315/.366/.534/ .900 OPS (70 games)

                                2011: .341/.393/.574/ .967 OPS (45 games)

                                September stats the past 3 years:

                                .365/.440/.670/ 1.000 OPS (114 games)

                                He's more than a platoon player. In the 2nd half, he hits an all star level. And he always hit well enough at the end of the year to offset his bad starts and end up with nice numbers (.891 OPS in '09, .814 OPS in '10). Look at those numbers, and it's not a small sample size since it's over the course of 3 seasons. Yes he does not hit much in the first two months, but if you can make it through until June, he hits at an all star level. He just had a great postseason too.

                                He's a good hitter. If he can ever figure it out in the first half, you will have a steal. But even the way he is, he's valuable. Gets better as the summer goes on. Rakes in August/September. Can play all 3 outfield positions, 2nd, 1st, and 3rd.

                                He's a Florida kid so maybe it's cold weather which causes him to struggle. Either way if the Tigers sent him and a nice couple prospects to Atlanta it would not be the worst trade in the world. How many platoon players can hit like that for a extended period of time? In 2009 Leyland moved him third in the lineup and they didn't miss a beat. They've always said he's built for the National League because of his versatility.

                                Obviously him for Prado straight up would not be good, it would depend on who else is involved. But I'm a Braves fan too, and if he was playing LF everyday he could be a bargain. He makes 1.3 million so there is some salary relief there.
                                Last edited by CabreraMVP; 11-15-2011, 07:17 PM.
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