Game Discussion Thread: 4/30 - 5/6

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Somebody hold me.

Would be absolutely awful if this is how his career ends.

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[Cabke]

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It hasn't been called Jacob's Field (aka The Jake) in over four years.

[Sportsforever]

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Awful news for Mo...a torn ACL and meniscus. His knee is wrecked and he didn't look like a guy who is going to come back (who knows at this point). Felt so bad for him watching that interview...his comment about letting the team down was just typical Mo. Great player, greater man.

[ImTellinTim]

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Hate to see his career end like that on a freak accident if that's it. The last and only 42 that deserves to be put up next to Jackie's at a park.

[rspencer86]

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If one more Royal gets thrown out trying to steal third base, I'm going to kill someone.

And man, I feel so bad for Mariano. Hate the Yanks, but what a sad way for it to end (if he can't/doesn't come back) for a dude who is a living legend.

[ryan36]

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Gosh, so sad... the shot of A-Rod saying "Oh my God , oh my God" and then Girardi almost sprinting out there... and then Mo being lifted into the cart. Wow. I hope he comes back next year.

[bkrich83]

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I despise the Yankees, but Mo's easily the greatest closer of all time. Tough to see him go out like this. Hopefully he decides to make a comeback.

[SPTO]

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Mariano Rivera carted off the field in KC after injuring his knee? catching fly balls during batting practice.

Somebody hold me.

Would be absolutely awful if this is how his career ends.

Wow

I hate the Yankees with all my heart but Mariano Rivera is one of the classiest ballplayers EVER IMO. If this is the way his career ends then it is one of the most disheartening and sad endings to a HOF career.

I hope he can make the comeback but something tells me he won't risk it as his legacy is firmly in place.


Kinda puts a damper on my being happy the Jays won tonight.

[TCM]

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Tragic accident for the best closer of all time, it saddens me to see his career in jeopardy from a situation like this.

[DaaBoTownSox]

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Mo will be back. I have no doubts. And now, a few stats for your viewing pleasure:

Rivera in the regular season
Appearances: 1,051<<
ERA: 2.21<<
Saves: 608<<
Blown saves: 73<<
Strikeouts: 1,119
Walks: 277
Opp BA: .210

>> Leads active pitchers (min. 1,000 IP)

Rivera in the postseason
Appearances: 96<<
ERA: 0.70<<
Saves: 42<<
Blown saves: 5
Strikeouts: 110
Walks: 21
Opp BA: .174

>> Best all time (min. 30 IP)

Most saves, MLB history
Mariano Rivera: 608
Trevor Hoffman: 601
Lee Smith: 478
John Franco: 424
Billy Wagner: 422

Most career saves all with one team
Mariano Rivera (Yankees): 608
Jeff Montgomery (Royals): 304
Bobby Thigpen (White Sox): 201
Danny Graves (Reds): 182

Most 30-save seasons
Mariano Rivera: 14
Trevor Hoffman: 14
Lee Smith: 10
Billy Wagner: 9

Most consecutive 20-save seasons
Mariano Rivera: 15
Lee Smith: 13
Jeff Reardon: 11
Most postseason saves, all time
Mariano Rivera: 42
Brad Lidge: 18
Dennis Eckersley: 15

Lowest ERA, live ball era (since 1920)
Mariano Rivera: 2.21
Hoyt Wilhelm: 2.52
Whitey Ford: 2.75
Dan Quisenberry: 2.76
Sandy Koufax: 2.76
(minimum 1,000 IP)

Lowest WHIP, all time
Addie Joss: 0.97
Mariano Rivera: 1.00
Ed Walsh: 1.00
Monte Ward: 1.04
Pedro Martinez: 1.05
(min. 1,000 IP)

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If this is the way his career ends then it is one of the most disheartening and sad endings to a HOF career.

LeSigh...

Most career saves all with one team
Mariano Rivera (Yankees): 608
Jeff Montgomery (Royals): 304
Bobby Thigpen (White Sox): 201
Danny Graves (Reds): 182

This is a weird, cherry picking kind of stat. Hoffman had 552 saves with San Diego alone but because he spent two seasons in Milwaukee at the end of his career it completely discredits him.

[55]

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Don't get me wrong, I think Rivera is the greatest relief pitcher in the history of the game, but I simply cannot call the way his career ended "sad" or "tragic" compared to a guy like Clemente.

Rivera - made over 140 million dollars in his career. Got to play 18 seasons relatively injury free and was going to retire this year anyway. Doesn't have to rush through therapy and can take the ACL injury recovery time slow. Still has NINE FIGURES in the bank to live off of and support his family for many generations in the future.

Clemente - hardly made a million dollars during his entire career. Was plagued with injuries in the last few years of his career but still could have played a few more seasons. Was one of the most charitable athletes that ever lived and LOST HIS LIFE in a plane crash on the way to help the victims of an earthquake in Nicaragua.

One of these is tragic and the other is just bad luck.

[Cabke]

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Don't get me wrong, I think Rivera is the greatest relief pitcher in the history of the game, but I simply cannot call the way his career ended "sad" or "tragic" compared to a guy like Clemente.

Rivera - made over 140 million dollars in his career. Got to play 18 seasons relatively injury free and was going to retire this year anyway. Doesn't have to rush through therapy and can take the ACL injury recovery time slow. Still has NINE FIGURES in the bank to live off of and support his family for many generations in the future.

Clemente - hardly made a million dollars during his entire career. Was plagued with injuries in the last few years of his career but still could have played a few more seasons. Was one of the most charitable athletes that ever lived and LOST HIS LIFE in a plane crash on the way to help the victims of an earthquake in Nicaragua.

One of these is tragic and the other is just bad luck.

Yeah, this is sad, but it's sort of a **** happens situation. I hate the Yankees but always have loved Mo, but it's unfortunate that I'm going to have to listen to ESPN and MLB Network talk about it for the next year. Clemente is my all time favorite player. Comparing these makes no sense.

[ImTellinTim]

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Mo will be back. I have no doubts.

I highly doubt it. But sportswriters have been trying to say he's too old for a few years now, so if there was anyone that would come back from major knee surgery at 42, it could be him.

I'm not sure why he'd want to though. Like 55 said, he can take his time recovering and spend time with his family.

[BatsareBugs]

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This is a weird, cherry picking kind of stat. Hoffman had 552 saves with San Diego alone but because he spent two seasons in Milwaukee at the end of his career it completely discredits him.

Hoffman would have never qualified because he got two saves with the Marlins before he was traded to San Diego.