Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

[AI_Franchise03]

Re: Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

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dooch said:
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dce1228 said:
The more the Yanks spend the less of a legitimate franchise they become. When they lose it's magnified and they're even bigger losers. If they win it's only because they have the money to reload every off-season. It seems to kill yankee fans that their franchise is regarded so. I don't envy them at all.

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I'm a Yankee fan and it doesn't kill me one bit. They're not doing one thing wrong. Most other fans wish their teams owners wanted to win as badly as George. It cracks me up when other people say ridiculous things like 'the more money they spend, the less of a legitimate franchise they become.' Oh well, whatever floats your boat I guess....

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No doubt. More bang for your buck, and the only thing that is killing the Yankees' fans(at least me) is not being able to sweep the awards and the trophies. Most importantly the championships, the individual awards take a backseat to that.

[SPTO]

Re: Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

The last few posts in this thread is a clear example of what the difference between baseball fans in other markets and fans in the Bronx. I harbor no ill will against the Yankees fans here but I have to say that the whole idea of "yes we can get anyone we want" is whats hurting MLB today.

It's great that you have an owner that wants to win by any means possible but at some point it's going to make your team look more and more like a caricature of what a true baseball franchise should be.

Let's just put asside the monetary issue for a moment there's another argument against the way the Yankees are operating. Mike Lupica was interviewed and was asked about the Yankees. He was saying how everybody associated with the team (including fans) feel that season doesn't matter unless you win the WS.

This is NOT what the purpose of sports is. Sports is about trying to win the elusive championship and if for some reason you can't win it all that doesn't mean the season is invalidated.

Let me give an example that Lupica gave to Tim Russert (who's a big Bills fan) The Bills made it to the SB 4 straight years. They happened to lose all 4 yrs but did the players, coaches, management and fans say "Oh we didn't win the SB! What we accomplished doesn't matter." Of course they didn't because while it would be great to win it all they realized that winning a championship is one of the hardest things to do in sports.

That my friends is whats wrong with ppl associated with the Yankees. They don't know how to appreciate the thrill of the season unless they win it all. (and by all means) That is a bastardization of sports.

[SPTO]

Re: Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

The last few posts in this thread is a clear example of what the difference between baseball fans in other markets and fans in the Bronx. I harbor no ill will against the Yankees fans here but I have to say that the whole idea of "yes we can get anyone we want" is whats hurting MLB today.

It's great that you have an owner that wants to win by any means possible but at some point it's going to make your team look more and more like a caricature of what a true baseball franchise should be.

Let's just put asside the monetary issue for a moment there's another argument against the way the Yankees are operating. Mike Lupica was interviewed and was asked about the Yankees. He was saying how everybody associated with the team (including fans) feel that season doesn't matter unless you win the WS.

This is NOT what the purpose of sports is. Sports is about trying to win the elusive championship and if for some reason you can't win it all that doesn't mean the season is invalidated.

Let me give an example that Lupica gave to Tim Russert (who's a big Bills fan) The Bills made it to the SB 4 straight years. They happened to lose all 4 yrs but did the players, coaches, management and fans say "Oh we didn't win the SB! What we accomplished doesn't matter." Of course they didn't because while it would be great to win it all they realized that winning a championship is one of the hardest things to do in sports.

That my friends is whats wrong with ppl associated with the Yankees. They don't know how to appreciate the thrill of the season unless they win it all. (and by all means) That is a bastardization of sports.

[SPTO]

Re: Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

The last few posts in this thread is a clear example of what the difference between baseball fans in other markets and fans in the Bronx. I harbor no ill will against the Yankees fans here but I have to say that the whole idea of "yes we can get anyone we want" is whats hurting MLB today.

It's great that you have an owner that wants to win by any means possible but at some point it's going to make your team look more and more like a caricature of what a true baseball franchise should be.

Let's just put asside the monetary issue for a moment there's another argument against the way the Yankees are operating. Mike Lupica was interviewed and was asked about the Yankees. He was saying how everybody associated with the team (including fans) feel that season doesn't matter unless you win the WS.

This is NOT what the purpose of sports is. Sports is about trying to win the elusive championship and if for some reason you can't win it all that doesn't mean the season is invalidated.

Let me give an example that Lupica gave to Tim Russert (who's a big Bills fan) The Bills made it to the SB 4 straight years. They happened to lose all 4 yrs but did the players, coaches, management and fans say "Oh we didn't win the SB! What we accomplished doesn't matter." Of course they didn't because while it would be great to win it all they realized that winning a championship is one of the hardest things to do in sports.

That my friends is whats wrong with ppl associated with the Yankees. They don't know how to appreciate the thrill of the season unless they win it all. (and by all means) That is a bastardization of sports.

[AI_Franchise03]

Re: Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

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SportsmanTO said:
The last few posts in this thread is a clear example of what the difference between baseball fans in other markets and fans in the Bronx. I harbor no ill will against the Yankees fans here but I have to say that the whole idea of "yes we can get anyone we want" is whats hurting MLB today.

It's great that you have an owner that wants to win by any means possible but at some point it's going to make your team look more and more like a caricature of what a true baseball franchise should be.

Let's just put asside the monetary issue for a moment there's another argument against the way the Yankees are operating. Mike Lupica was interviewed and was asked about the Yankees. He was saying how everybody associated with the team (including fans) feel that season doesn't matter unless you win the WS.

This is NOT what the purpose of sports is. Sports is about trying to win the elusive championship and if for some reason you can't win it all that doesn't mean the season is invalidated.

Let me give an example that Lupica gave to Tim Russert (who's a big Bills fan) The Bills made it to the SB 4 straight years. They happened to lose all 4 yrs but did the players, coaches, management and fans say "Oh we didn't win the SB! What we accomplished doesn't matter." Of course they didn't because while it would be great to win it all they realized that winning a championship is one of the hardest things to do in sports.

That my friends is whats wrong with ppl associated with the Yankees. They don't know how to appreciate the thrill of the season unless they win it all. (and by all means) That is a bastardization of sports.

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Before I say anything, I hate Lupica.

There's a difference between all other MLB teams' fans and Yankees' fans. Of course I can't speak for everyone, but I will on my behalf. When we get to the WS, second finishes are neglected. That's is one of the expectations, and the pressures of playing for the Yankees. Though, don't think we aren't grateful for a good season, even if we don't come home with the trophy. I'm always grateful to the Yankees, for making my days brighter and happier. This is the only NY team and management I'm proud of. So to get back to appreciating the season I have this to say, even though we lost last season to the Marlins, I'm overjoyed that we beat the BoSox in ALCS. That was my WS right there. And the best of all beating Pedro and seeing Jorge get back at him.
Don't think I'm taking this team's championship(s) run for granted, 'cause I'm not. But once you get a taste of the championship, you can never accept no substitutes. Especially when you have a dynasty on your hands.
Until this run ends, you're going to get the same answers from every individual.
But again, I speak for myself, I'm sure there are many who also appreciate a "losing" season, and others who don't. I'm proud both of those groups represent the NY Yankees.

[AI_Franchise03]

Re: Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

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SportsmanTO said:
The last few posts in this thread is a clear example of what the difference between baseball fans in other markets and fans in the Bronx. I harbor no ill will against the Yankees fans here but I have to say that the whole idea of "yes we can get anyone we want" is whats hurting MLB today.

It's great that you have an owner that wants to win by any means possible but at some point it's going to make your team look more and more like a caricature of what a true baseball franchise should be.

Let's just put asside the monetary issue for a moment there's another argument against the way the Yankees are operating. Mike Lupica was interviewed and was asked about the Yankees. He was saying how everybody associated with the team (including fans) feel that season doesn't matter unless you win the WS.

This is NOT what the purpose of sports is. Sports is about trying to win the elusive championship and if for some reason you can't win it all that doesn't mean the season is invalidated.

Let me give an example that Lupica gave to Tim Russert (who's a big Bills fan) The Bills made it to the SB 4 straight years. They happened to lose all 4 yrs but did the players, coaches, management and fans say "Oh we didn't win the SB! What we accomplished doesn't matter." Of course they didn't because while it would be great to win it all they realized that winning a championship is one of the hardest things to do in sports.

That my friends is whats wrong with ppl associated with the Yankees. They don't know how to appreciate the thrill of the season unless they win it all. (and by all means) That is a bastardization of sports.

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Before I say anything, I hate Lupica.

There's a difference between all other MLB teams' fans and Yankees' fans. Of course I can't speak for everyone, but I will on my behalf. When we get to the WS, second finishes are neglected. That's is one of the expectations, and the pressures of playing for the Yankees. Though, don't think we aren't grateful for a good season, even if we don't come home with the trophy. I'm always grateful to the Yankees, for making my days brighter and happier. This is the only NY team and management I'm proud of. So to get back to appreciating the season I have this to say, even though we lost last season to the Marlins, I'm overjoyed that we beat the BoSox in ALCS. That was my WS right there. And the best of all beating Pedro and seeing Jorge get back at him.
Don't think I'm taking this team's championship(s) run for granted, 'cause I'm not. But once you get a taste of the championship, you can never accept no substitutes. Especially when you have a dynasty on your hands.
Until this run ends, you're going to get the same answers from every individual.
But again, I speak for myself, I'm sure there are many who also appreciate a "losing" season, and others who don't. I'm proud both of those groups represent the NY Yankees.

[AI_Franchise03]

Re: Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

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SportsmanTO said:
The last few posts in this thread is a clear example of what the difference between baseball fans in other markets and fans in the Bronx. I harbor no ill will against the Yankees fans here but I have to say that the whole idea of "yes we can get anyone we want" is whats hurting MLB today.

It's great that you have an owner that wants to win by any means possible but at some point it's going to make your team look more and more like a caricature of what a true baseball franchise should be.

Let's just put asside the monetary issue for a moment there's another argument against the way the Yankees are operating. Mike Lupica was interviewed and was asked about the Yankees. He was saying how everybody associated with the team (including fans) feel that season doesn't matter unless you win the WS.

This is NOT what the purpose of sports is. Sports is about trying to win the elusive championship and if for some reason you can't win it all that doesn't mean the season is invalidated.

Let me give an example that Lupica gave to Tim Russert (who's a big Bills fan) The Bills made it to the SB 4 straight years. They happened to lose all 4 yrs but did the players, coaches, management and fans say "Oh we didn't win the SB! What we accomplished doesn't matter." Of course they didn't because while it would be great to win it all they realized that winning a championship is one of the hardest things to do in sports.

That my friends is whats wrong with ppl associated with the Yankees. They don't know how to appreciate the thrill of the season unless they win it all. (and by all means) That is a bastardization of sports.

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Before I say anything, I hate Lupica.

There's a difference between all other MLB teams' fans and Yankees' fans. Of course I can't speak for everyone, but I will on my behalf. When we get to the WS, second finishes are neglected. That's is one of the expectations, and the pressures of playing for the Yankees. Though, don't think we aren't grateful for a good season, even if we don't come home with the trophy. I'm always grateful to the Yankees, for making my days brighter and happier. This is the only NY team and management I'm proud of. So to get back to appreciating the season I have this to say, even though we lost last season to the Marlins, I'm overjoyed that we beat the BoSox in ALCS. That was my WS right there. And the best of all beating Pedro and seeing Jorge get back at him.
Don't think I'm taking this team's championship(s) run for granted, 'cause I'm not. But once you get a taste of the championship, you can never accept no substitutes. Especially when you have a dynasty on your hands.
Until this run ends, you're going to get the same answers from every individual.
But again, I speak for myself, I'm sure there are many who also appreciate a "losing" season, and others who don't. I'm proud both of those groups represent the NY Yankees.

[dce1228]

Re: Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

Personally, I think you're kiding yourself if you're saying 'never' winning a championship is okay. You gotta be missing something if you've never brought home the trophy. On the other hand, there are the Yankees and their fans who need to win EVERYTHING or they're unfulfilled. Frankly, I regard this need as a sickness. But as a '*****' of the Yanks, I must say it makes things more enjoyable to have a competitive Yankee team to root against. The more money they pump into their coorporate team the more enjoyable it is to see that team lose. A lot of folks get so frustrated with the Yanks, but they cannot deny the joy they experience when the Skanks fall is second only to the joy the yankee fans themselves feel when the Yanks win. Seeing Matsui lose the ROY was joyous, because I know how angry it made the skank camp. Seeing him left off the TOPPS rookie team was divine.

So yeah, go ahead and buy Colon, Alomar, Guerrero and Sheffield and whomever. Please trade your young home-grown guys for aging veteran pitchers. The higher you build your mountain of excess the harder it will crumble. Come on, let the green fly.

[dce1228]

Re: Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

Personally, I think you're kiding yourself if you're saying 'never' winning a championship is okay. You gotta be missing something if you've never brought home the trophy. On the other hand, there are the Yankees and their fans who need to win EVERYTHING or they're unfulfilled. Frankly, I regard this need as a sickness. But as a '*****' of the Yanks, I must say it makes things more enjoyable to have a competitive Yankee team to root against. The more money they pump into their coorporate team the more enjoyable it is to see that team lose. A lot of folks get so frustrated with the Yanks, but they cannot deny the joy they experience when the Skanks fall is second only to the joy the yankee fans themselves feel when the Yanks win. Seeing Matsui lose the ROY was joyous, because I know how angry it made the skank camp. Seeing him left off the TOPPS rookie team was divine.

So yeah, go ahead and buy Colon, Alomar, Guerrero and Sheffield and whomever. Please trade your young home-grown guys for aging veteran pitchers. The higher you build your mountain of excess the harder it will crumble. Come on, let the green fly.

[dce1228]

Re: Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

Personally, I think you're kiding yourself if you're saying 'never' winning a championship is okay. You gotta be missing something if you've never brought home the trophy. On the other hand, there are the Yankees and their fans who need to win EVERYTHING or they're unfulfilled. Frankly, I regard this need as a sickness. But as a '*****' of the Yanks, I must say it makes things more enjoyable to have a competitive Yankee team to root against. The more money they pump into their coorporate team the more enjoyable it is to see that team lose. A lot of folks get so frustrated with the Yanks, but they cannot deny the joy they experience when the Skanks fall is second only to the joy the yankee fans themselves feel when the Yanks win. Seeing Matsui lose the ROY was joyous, because I know how angry it made the skank camp. Seeing him left off the TOPPS rookie team was divine.

So yeah, go ahead and buy Colon, Alomar, Guerrero and Sheffield and whomever. Please trade your young home-grown guys for aging veteran pitchers. The higher you build your mountain of excess the harder it will crumble. Come on, let the green fly.

[rsox]

Re: Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

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AI_Franchise03 said:

Have you forgotten Vasquez, or about Sheffield? We'll make a big push for Vasquez, and Sheffield's signing is around the corner. 3 years 40-45 mill. No Vlad, thank god. Let the O's have their next Albert Belle.
About Schilling, he will be with us sooner or later. They're in no position in trying to screw us over. Sori and NJ?! Colangelos kiss my ***! But on the positive note, 200 million payroll here we come.

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Vasquez or anyone on the Expos for that matter is not going anywhere until MLB gives the team a payroll for the season, they cant sign or move anyone 'till then,
as for Sheffield he's a good ballplayer but he will be miserable in New York,not with his piss poor additude, so go ahead and sign him get that payroll over 200 million and be the only team for the third consecutive season to have to pay the luxory tax.

[rsox]

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AI_Franchise03 said:

Have you forgotten Vasquez, or about Sheffield? We'll make a big push for Vasquez, and Sheffield's signing is around the corner. 3 years 40-45 mill. No Vlad, thank god. Let the O's have their next Albert Belle.
About Schilling, he will be with us sooner or later. They're in no position in trying to screw us over. Sori and NJ?! Colangelos kiss my ***! But on the positive note, 200 million payroll here we come.

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Vasquez or anyone on the Expos for that matter is not going anywhere until MLB gives the team a payroll for the season, they cant sign or move anyone 'till then,
as for Sheffield he's a good ballplayer but he will be miserable in New York,not with his piss poor additude, so go ahead and sign him get that payroll over 200 million and be the only team for the third consecutive season to have to pay the luxory tax.

[rsox]

Re: Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

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AI_Franchise03 said:

Have you forgotten Vasquez, or about Sheffield? We'll make a big push for Vasquez, and Sheffield's signing is around the corner. 3 years 40-45 mill. No Vlad, thank god. Let the O's have their next Albert Belle.
About Schilling, he will be with us sooner or later. They're in no position in trying to screw us over. Sori and NJ?! Colangelos kiss my ***! But on the positive note, 200 million payroll here we come.

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Vasquez or anyone on the Expos for that matter is not going anywhere until MLB gives the team a payroll for the season, they cant sign or move anyone 'till then,
as for Sheffield he's a good ballplayer but he will be miserable in New York,not with his piss poor additude, so go ahead and sign him get that payroll over 200 million and be the only team for the third consecutive season to have to pay the luxory tax.

[sportdan30]

Re: Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

Rumor around St. Louis is that Alomar will land with the Cardinals and hit lead off. He has a very good relationship with Tony LaRussa. Also, there's speculation Maddux will sign with the Cards as well.

[sportdan30]

Re: Robbie Alomar in Pinstripes

Rumor around St. Louis is that Alomar will land with the Cardinals and hit lead off. He has a very good relationship with Tony LaRussa. Also, there's speculation Maddux will sign with the Cards as well.