2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

[Majingir]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

His bad season with Dodgers really wasn't his fault either. Look at difference in 04 and 05 teams.

04:
C-Lo Duca
1B-Green
2B-Cora
SS-Izturis
3B-Beltre
LF-Werth(2nd lowest batting average of all their starting lineup at .262)
CF-Bradley
RF-J.Encarnacion

SP:
Weaver
Perez
Ishii
Lima
Nomo

RP:
Gagne
Sanchez
Mota
Dreifort
Martin

05:
C-Phillips
1B-Choi
2B-Kent
SS-Izturis
3B-Edwards
LF-Ledee
CF-Bradley
RF-Drew

SP:
Weaver
Lowe
Penny
Houlton
Perez

RP:
Brazoban
Sanchez
Carrara
Schmoli
Wunsch

It was like a completely diff team in 04 and 05. He was fired in 05 cause of 1 bad season(71-91) despite the past 4 season having 85+ wins.

The dodgers did bounce back the season after he was fired, but mostly cause they had guys like Martin,Ethier,Nomar,Billingsley,Broxton among others added to the team.


So Tracy really seems like he'd be a great guy to have as coach, as long as management doesn't ruin the team, and based on the Jays 2013 team, looks like he'll be doing great job with them.

[G3no_11]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

G3no_11, being a Rockies fan, can you briefly describe Jim Tracy for us Jays fans? Not sure what to think of him.

I was a big Jim Tracy fan. He's really nice to the media, will answer all questions. He will do anything that puts his team in position to win. The Rockies roster with all of their injuries couldn't really show that he was a solid manager. You guys will love him if you get Tracy.

[G3no_11]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

I'm not sure about how he was with Rockies either, but I read some posts on a Rockies forum from when he was released as their manager, and most people(and articles) seemed to be praising him for leaving. So seems like the bad seasons in Colorado weren't really his fault, more of the Rockies upper management fault.

So basically, it was one of those "can't blame him for leaving" type of situations, which I guess could be great if he's Jays manager, to know that the bad seasons in Colorado weren't really his fault.

This is exactly right. Management wanted to have more power over what he was doing. I'm not exactly sure what they are wanting to do, but giving the Rockies management more power would drive any manager out of town.
Jim Tracy definitely did the right thing by taking the high road and leaving on his own. The Rockies had their worst season in history but Jim Tracy came out looking like the good guy.

EDIT: One more thing... Players really respect Jim Tracy. The players never quit playing hard and I think he could be a good guy to bring into a situation like Toronto's.

[AC]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

Makes me slightly happier to hear, but...

Did AA give any hint about the JJ trade? No. Did he give any hint about the Melky signing? No-ish. We call him the Silent Assassin for a reason, I doubt he goes Tracy or Wriggleman.

[rdnk]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

We call him the Silent Assassin for a reason; I doubt he goes Tracy or Wriggleman.

I hope he's a silent assassin, or he'll end up like this guy:



Marlins just signed Juan Pierre. See, they're just like the A's/O's from last year.

[AC]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

Is Manny Ramirez officially retired? If not, I predict that this will be the 5th straight off season he's linked to Toronto.

[G3no_11]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

Marlins just signed Juan Pierre. See, they're just like the A's/O's from last year.

I miss Juan Pierre in Colorado....

[Majingir]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

Is Manny Ramirez officially retired? If not, I predict that this will be the 5th straight off season he's linked to Toronto.

lol,if that happens, how long until the "Toronto is the MLBs rehab city" jokes start cause of Manny and Melky being there.

Vlad was signed, and it didn't work out, so he asked to be released. I don't see Manny or Jays wanting this deal to happen.

Of all the potential free agents, who could be the best DH options out there? Napoli,LaRoche are the best ones I see. Both signing for under 10M for sure.

I know it's about half a year from now...but something I noticed on the schedule...Jays play in Chicago in mid June. Buehrle hasn't faced the White Sox in his career, so I'm sure he'll get a fairly big reaction when returning in June, considering he did spend 12 years there(and win a WS with them)

[Chrisksaint]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

Signing Juan Pierre is our big response? Hell Yeah, aka he'll be traded in July

[duke776]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

Is Manny Ramirez officially retired? If not, I predict that this will be the 5th straight off season he's linked to Toronto.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/manny-ramirez-homers-first-pitch-sees-dominican-league-180946078--mlb.html

[Majingir]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

Someone looks happy to have been traded to Toronto....

[tvman]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

Geez all that money and he has to use covers on his chairs.

[SPTO]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

Someone looks happy to have been traded to Toronto....

Blue looks good on him!

[TheMatrix31]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

I hope he stays in Canada forever.

[Majingir]

Re: 2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

lol, Jays lineup can have as many as 4 switch hitters on it in a single game.

If you include bench guys being inserted into the lineup in any given game, Jays could have 9 righties batting in their lineup, or 8 lefties(cause all their catchers are right handed).

lol, if a starting pitcher is TERRIBLE against righties or lefties, Jays might just go all out and have the 8-9 righties or lefties all face that guy.