Still No Sandberg In Hall

**Sully** · 01-07-2004, 12:03 AM

Re: Still No Sandberg In Hall

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cookusu said:
I don't get it, one of the top Second basemen of all time and the pinhead baseball writers can't figure out he belongs in the Hall of Fame.

Molitor and Eck, deserved it but I don't understand how some writers can think a guy doesn't belong one year but then the next year they vote for him, makes me think these guys don't really understand what they are doing.

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Sandberg will be in next year without a doubt. There are no first time on the ballot threats next year. Now, 2007 will be interesting. Mark McGwire, Tony Gwynn, and Cal Ripken...and I'm forgetting someone else. So, if the in betweeners don't get in by 2007 , there's no way they will recieve the 5 percent they need to stay on the ballot come 2007.

**Sully** · 01-07-2004, 12:03 AM

Re: Still No Sandberg In Hall

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cookusu said:
I don't get it, one of the top Second basemen of all time and the pinhead baseball writers can't figure out he belongs in the Hall of Fame.

Molitor and Eck, deserved it but I don't understand how some writers can think a guy doesn't belong one year but then the next year they vote for him, makes me think these guys don't really understand what they are doing.

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Sandberg will be in next year without a doubt. There are no first time on the ballot threats next year. Now, 2007 will be interesting. Mark McGwire, Tony Gwynn, and Cal Ripken...and I'm forgetting someone else. So, if the in betweeners don't get in by 2007 , there's no way they will recieve the 5 percent they need to stay on the ballot come 2007.

**Sully** · 01-07-2004, 12:03 AM

Re: Still No Sandberg In Hall

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cookusu said:
I don't get it, one of the top Second basemen of all time and the pinhead baseball writers can't figure out he belongs in the Hall of Fame.

Molitor and Eck, deserved it but I don't understand how some writers can think a guy doesn't belong one year but then the next year they vote for him, makes me think these guys don't really understand what they are doing.

<hr /></blockquote>

Sandberg will be in next year without a doubt. There are no first time on the ballot threats next year. Now, 2007 will be interesting. Mark McGwire, Tony Gwynn, and Cal Ripken...and I'm forgetting someone else. So, if the in betweeners don't get in by 2007 , there's no way they will recieve the 5 percent they need to stay on the ballot come 2007.

**bender_over** · 01-07-2004, 12:41 AM

Re: Still No Sandberg In Hall

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Sully said:
Sandberg will be in next year without a doubt. There are no first time on the ballot threats next year. Now, 2007 will be interesting. Mark McGwire, Tony Gwynn, and Cal Ripken...and I'm forgetting someone else. So, if the in betweeners don't get in by 2007 , there's no way they will recieve the 5 percent they need to stay on the ballot come 2007.

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Wade Boggs maybe?

**bender_over** · 01-07-2004, 12:41 AM

Re: Still No Sandberg In Hall

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Sully said:
Sandberg will be in next year without a doubt. There are no first time on the ballot threats next year. Now, 2007 will be interesting. Mark McGwire, Tony Gwynn, and Cal Ripken...and I'm forgetting someone else. So, if the in betweeners don't get in by 2007 , there's no way they will recieve the 5 percent they need to stay on the ballot come 2007.

<hr /></blockquote>

Wade Boggs maybe?

**bender_over** · 01-07-2004, 12:41 AM

Re: Still No Sandberg In Hall

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Sully said:
Sandberg will be in next year without a doubt. There are no first time on the ballot threats next year. Now, 2007 will be interesting. Mark McGwire, Tony Gwynn, and Cal Ripken...and I'm forgetting someone else. So, if the in betweeners don't get in by 2007 , there's no way they will recieve the 5 percent they need to stay on the ballot come 2007.

<hr /></blockquote>

Wade Boggs maybe?

**Sully** · 01-07-2004, 12:44 AM

Re: Still No Sandberg In Hall

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bender_over said:
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Sully said:
Sandberg will be in next year without a doubt. There are no first time on the ballot threats next year. Now, 2007 will be interesting. Mark McGwire, Tony Gwynn, and Cal Ripken...and I'm forgetting someone else. So, if the in betweeners don't get in by 2007 , there's no way they will recieve the 5 percent they need to stay on the ballot come 2007.

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Wade Boggs maybe?

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Boggs is on next year's ballot. So he's the only threat for next year. I made a mistake by saying there is nobody that is a first time threat next year. IMHO, I think Boggs and Sandberg are going to be voted in next year.

On a side note, Joe Carter, Keith Hernandez, Dennis Martinez, and Willie McGee failed to receive 5 percent of the votes this year and are no longer eligible for future ballots.

**Sully** · 01-07-2004, 12:44 AM

Re: Still No Sandberg In Hall

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bender_over said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Sully said:
Sandberg will be in next year without a doubt. There are no first time on the ballot threats next year. Now, 2007 will be interesting. Mark McGwire, Tony Gwynn, and Cal Ripken...and I'm forgetting someone else. So, if the in betweeners don't get in by 2007 , there's no way they will recieve the 5 percent they need to stay on the ballot come 2007.

<hr /></blockquote>

Wade Boggs maybe?

<hr /></blockquote>

Boggs is on next year's ballot. So he's the only threat for next year. I made a mistake by saying there is nobody that is a first time threat next year. IMHO, I think Boggs and Sandberg are going to be voted in next year.

On a side note, Joe Carter, Keith Hernandez, Dennis Martinez, and Willie McGee failed to receive 5 percent of the votes this year and are no longer eligible for future ballots.

**Sully** · 01-07-2004, 12:44 AM

Re: Still No Sandberg In Hall

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bender_over said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Sully said:
Sandberg will be in next year without a doubt. There are no first time on the ballot threats next year. Now, 2007 will be interesting. Mark McGwire, Tony Gwynn, and Cal Ripken...and I'm forgetting someone else. So, if the in betweeners don't get in by 2007 , there's no way they will recieve the 5 percent they need to stay on the ballot come 2007.

<hr /></blockquote>

Wade Boggs maybe?

<hr /></blockquote>

Boggs is on next year's ballot. So he's the only threat for next year. I made a mistake by saying there is nobody that is a first time threat next year. IMHO, I think Boggs and Sandberg are going to be voted in next year.

On a side note, Joe Carter, Keith Hernandez, Dennis Martinez, and Willie McGee failed to receive 5 percent of the votes this year and are no longer eligible for future ballots.

**cookusu** · 01-07-2004, 12:58 AM

Re: Still No Sandberg In Hall

I don't think Carter or Hernandez are HOF'ers but I was a little surprised that they didn't get 5%, but only cause some of the guys seem to vote for some guys who they know won't make it but to give them some respect for excellent careers.

Hopefully Sandberg will make it next year, but call me crazy, it seems like if I had a ballot I would just vote for whomever I thought deserved it regardles of whether it was their first year or who else was newly elligible that year, I think the power of electing HOFers goes to some of these writers heads, why did it take Gary Carter so long to get in, he was easily one of the best catchers in baseball for many years, it should have been a no brainer.

**cookusu** · 01-07-2004, 12:58 AM

Re: Still No Sandberg In Hall

I don't think Carter or Hernandez are HOF'ers but I was a little surprised that they didn't get 5%, but only cause some of the guys seem to vote for some guys who they know won't make it but to give them some respect for excellent careers.

Hopefully Sandberg will make it next year, but call me crazy, it seems like if I had a ballot I would just vote for whomever I thought deserved it regardles of whether it was their first year or who else was newly elligible that year, I think the power of electing HOFers goes to some of these writers heads, why did it take Gary Carter so long to get in, he was easily one of the best catchers in baseball for many years, it should have been a no brainer.

**cookusu** · 01-07-2004, 12:58 AM

Re: Still No Sandberg In Hall

I don't think Carter or Hernandez are HOF'ers but I was a little surprised that they didn't get 5%, but only cause some of the guys seem to vote for some guys who they know won't make it but to give them some respect for excellent careers.

Hopefully Sandberg will make it next year, but call me crazy, it seems like if I had a ballot I would just vote for whomever I thought deserved it regardles of whether it was their first year or who else was newly elligible that year, I think the power of electing HOFers goes to some of these writers heads, why did it take Gary Carter so long to get in, he was easily one of the best catchers in baseball for many years, it should have been a no brainer.

**Crown42Royal** · 01-07-2004, 12:59 AM

Re: Still No Sandberg In Hall

Here are the total from the voting. I believe Willie Mcgee is on next years ballot. Enjoy the numbers.

Player, total votes, percentage of vote recieved
Paul Molitor, 431, 85.2%
Dennis Eckersley, 421, 83.2%
Ryne Sandberg, 309, 61.1%
Bruce Sutter, 301, 59.5%
Jim Rice, 276, 54.5%
Andre Dawson, 253, 50%
Rich Gossage, 206, 40.7%
Lee Smith, 185, 36.6%
Bert Blyleven, 179, 35.4%
Jack Morris, 133, 26.3%
Steve Garvey, 123, 24.3%
Tommy John, 111, 21.9%
Alan Trammell, 70, 13.8%
Don Mattingly, 65, 12.8%
Dave Concepcion, 57, 11.3%
Dave Parker, 53, 10.5%
Dale Murphy, 43, 8.5%
Keith Hernandez, 22, 4.3%
Joe Carter, 19, 3.8%
Fernando Valenzuela, 19, 3.8%
Dennis Martinez, 16, 3.2%
Dave Stieb, 7, 1.4%
Jim Eisenreich, 3, 0%
Jimmy Key, 3, 0%
Doug Drabek, 2, 0%
Kevin Mitchell, 2, 0%
Juan Samuel, 2, 0%
Cecil Fielder, 1, 0%
Randy Myers, 1, 0%
Terry Pendleton, 1, 0%
Danny Darwin, 0, 0%
Bob Tewksbury, 0, 0%

**Crown42Royal** · 01-07-2004, 12:59 AM

Re: Still No Sandberg In Hall

Here are the total from the voting. I believe Willie Mcgee is on next years ballot. Enjoy the numbers.

Player, total votes, percentage of vote recieved
Paul Molitor, 431, 85.2%
Dennis Eckersley, 421, 83.2%
Ryne Sandberg, 309, 61.1%
Bruce Sutter, 301, 59.5%
Jim Rice, 276, 54.5%
Andre Dawson, 253, 50%
Rich Gossage, 206, 40.7%
Lee Smith, 185, 36.6%
Bert Blyleven, 179, 35.4%
Jack Morris, 133, 26.3%
Steve Garvey, 123, 24.3%
Tommy John, 111, 21.9%
Alan Trammell, 70, 13.8%
Don Mattingly, 65, 12.8%
Dave Concepcion, 57, 11.3%
Dave Parker, 53, 10.5%
Dale Murphy, 43, 8.5%
Keith Hernandez, 22, 4.3%
Joe Carter, 19, 3.8%
Fernando Valenzuela, 19, 3.8%
Dennis Martinez, 16, 3.2%
Dave Stieb, 7, 1.4%
Jim Eisenreich, 3, 0%
Jimmy Key, 3, 0%
Doug Drabek, 2, 0%
Kevin Mitchell, 2, 0%
Juan Samuel, 2, 0%
Cecil Fielder, 1, 0%
Randy Myers, 1, 0%
Terry Pendleton, 1, 0%
Danny Darwin, 0, 0%
Bob Tewksbury, 0, 0%

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