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  • Redacted01
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    • Aug 2007
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    #181
    Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by KMRblue1027
    The DH has always given the AL a huge advantage in interleague play, it needs to go but the player's union will never allow it.
    Since when? Half the games are played in NL parks and half the games are played in AL parks. The NL has lineups built around 8 players; AL teams don't. Seems like it fair.

    And in the current system, you still only play half your IL games on the road and half at home. So at home, you get the DH advantage (and homefield). On the road, you don't. Seems pretty cut and dry.

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    • Curahee
      100 Miles To Go
      • Jan 2012
      • 4009

      #182
      Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by KMRblue1027
      The DH has always given the AL a huge advantage in interleague play, it needs to go but the player's union will never allow it.

      How has the DH given the AL a huge advantage?

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      • KMRblue1027
        MVP
        • Oct 2011
        • 1029

        #183
        Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

        Because the NL teams are running out bench players as DH's while AL team get to run out players that can hit around the level of your average corner outfielder. This is why AL teams near universally had a higher winning percentage in interleague play than NL teams. 2003 is ancient history in baseball terms.

        Wins by league:

        <table class="wikitable sortable jquery-tablesorter"><tbody><tr style="background:#d0e7ff;"><td>1997</td> <td>National</td> <td>214</td> <td>97</td> <td>117</td> <td>.547</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#fcc;"> <td>1998</td> <td>American</td> <td>224</td> <td>114</td> <td>110</td> <td>.509</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#d0e7ff;"> <td>1999</td> <td>National</td> <td>251</td> <td>116</td> <td>135</td> <td>.538</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#fcc;"> <td>2000</td> <td>American</td> <td>251</td> <td>136</td> <td>115</td> <td>.542</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#fcc;"> <td>2001</td> <td>American</td> <td>252</td> <td>132</td> <td>120</td> <td>.524</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#d0e7ff;"> <td>2002</td> <td>National</td> <td>252</td> <td>123</td> <td>129</td> <td>.512</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#d0e7ff;"> <td>2003</td> <td>National</td> <td>252</td> <td>115</td> <td>137</td> <td>.544</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#fcc;"> <td>2004</td> <td>American</td> <td>252</td> <td>127</td> <td>125</td> <td>.504</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#fcc;"> <td>2005</td> <td>American</td> <td>252</td> <td>136</td> <td>116</td> <td>.540</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#fcc;"> <td>2006</td> <td>American</td> <td>252</td> <td>154</td> <td>98</td> <td>.611</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#fcc;"> <td>2007</td> <td>American</td> <td>252</td> <td>137</td> <td>115</td> <td>.544</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#fcc;"> <td>2008</td> <td>American</td> <td>252</td> <td>149</td> <td>103</td> <td>.591</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#fcc;"> <td>2009</td> <td>American</td> <td>252</td> <td>138</td> <td>114</td> <td>.548</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#fcc;"> <td>2010</td> <td>American</td> <td>252</td> <td>134</td> <td>118</td> <td>.532</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#fcc;"> <td>2011</td> <td>American</td> <td>252</td> <td>131</td> <td>121</td> <td>.520</td> </tr> <tr style="background:#fcc;"> <td>2012</td> <td>American</td> <td>252</td> <td>142</td> <td>110</td> <td>.563</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2013</td> <td>National</td> <td>7</td> <td>3</td> <td>4</td> <td>.571</td></tr></tbody></table>
        Last edited by KMRblue1027; 04-10-2013, 06:55 PM.
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        • Ed26
          Best defensive SS
          • Jun 2010
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          #184
          Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

          J. Buck is man crushing the ball.
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          • Curahee
            100 Miles To Go
            • Jan 2012
            • 4009

            #185
            Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by KMRblue1027
            Because the NL teams are running out bench players as DH's while AL team get to run out players that can hit around the level of your average corner outfielder. This is why AL teams near universally had a higher winning percentage in interleague play than NL teams. 2003 is ancient history in baseball terms.
            I guess I dont understand your point.
            In IL games in an NL park, the advantage goes to the NL because NL pitchers are more adept at batting.
            In IL games in AL parks, the advantage is negligible because both are afforded a DH.

            It has nothing to do with bench players or 25 man rosters.
            Its about forcing AL pitchers to bat in NL parks and not allowing DH's to play IL games in NL parks.

            The separation is stupid and incomprehensible that it has lasted this long.
            I dont go to baseball games to watch pitchers bat, I go to watch them pitch and watch he batters bat.

            In my example, the Sox have to either sit Konerko or Dunn for the WAS series because there is no DH in the NL.
            I dont see how sitting 1 of 2 of your best hitters is an advantage.

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            • JBH3
              Marvel's Finest
              • Jan 2007
              • 13506

              #186
              Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

              The Phillies put up a 5 spot in the 1st inning and Utley had a 2 run shot. Also, Dom Brown stroked a 3r shot to the 2nd deck. It's awesome to have Utley back healthy and seeing Dom Brown hit like this.

              EDIT: Michael Young is hitting now too, this team is swinging the bats good this series and if this is any indication the Phillies offense can get it going and should not be over-looked.
              Last edited by JBH3; 04-10-2013, 07:10 PM.
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              • KMRblue1027
                MVP
                • Oct 2011
                • 1029

                #187
                Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

                Because AL and NL pitchers hit almost identical to each other while AL DH absolutely obliterate the stats of the bench player that fill in for the NL teams in AL parks. It means that the AL teams have a rather insane home field advantage while they are evenly matched in NL parks.

                And if you play baseball you have to actually play not just pitch and not just hit and run the bases, the only reason the DH was added in the first place was because the AL teams couldn't draft power hitting position players. It's a legacy that smaller ballparks and better front offices have erased. It's simply not baseball without pitchers batting.

                Edit: Wow nice catch by the Mets CF.
                Last edited by KMRblue1027; 04-10-2013, 07:15 PM.
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                • TripleCrown9
                  Keep the Faith
                  • May 2010
                  • 23694

                  #188
                  Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

                  The NL should catch up with the times and adopt the DH. There, I said it.
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                  • JBH3
                    Marvel's Finest
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 13506

                    #189
                    Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                    The NL should catch up with the times and adopt the DH. There, I said it.
                    The AL should catch up with the times and adopt hitting pitchers. There, I said it.
                    Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                    All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                    • Curahee
                      100 Miles To Go
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 4009

                      #190
                      Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

                      B-Harp just crushed that first pitch hanging slider to the upper tank!
                      Moon shot!

                      The AL adopted the DH because of dwindling ticket sales. Not because of bad drafts.
                      This game is evolving and the culture of the game has changed.
                      With the advent of pitch counts and protecting their arms, it makes no sense to me to put them in line near a Strasburg FB.
                      If I were an MLB owner, I'd buy an AL team cuz i dont wanna watch my $65M pitcher batting.

                      I've watched the Cubs for over 30 yrs and have seen some great hitting pitchers, but i would rather see a DH do that job.
                      Last edited by Curahee; 04-10-2013, 07:25 PM.

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                      • TripleCrown9
                        Keep the Faith
                        • May 2010
                        • 23694

                        #191
                        Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by JBH3
                        The AL should catch up with the times and adopt hitting pitchers. There, I said it.
                        I wouldn't exactly call that "catching up with the times" lol.
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                        • TheMatrix31
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                          #192
                          Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

                          We're destroying the ball again tonight. Oof.

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                          • CameRoN0407
                            It's a New England Thing
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 3328

                            #193
                            Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

                            And there goes the tarp....
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                            • JBH3
                              Marvel's Finest
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 13506

                              #194
                              Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                              I love the National League, it's the greatest league ever. OMG it is so kewl.
                              Hey! I agree, that's awesome!
                              Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                              All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                              • IlliniM1ke
                                Heroes Never Die
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 8082

                                #195
                                Re: 4/8 - 4/14 Game Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                                The NL should catch up with the times and adopt the DH. There, I said it.
                                Originally posted by JBH3
                                The AL should catch up with the times and adopt hitting pitchers. There, I said it.
                                As a person who has always been a fan of NL baseball mors than AL I'm going to hate the day when the DH comes to the NL (I imagine it will happen within the next couple years), it just takes so much strategy out of the game.

                                Had to leave earlier so missed the last two innings of the Cardinals game, nice to see they held on and Westbrook got the CG shutout, after that awful meltdown in the opener I'm happy to see they bounced back and were able to take 2 of 3 from the Reds.
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