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    Banned
    • Feb 2010
    • 4458

    #1

    Getting closer to fan free agency - help me pick a new team!

    Wow... I truly can't believe I am about to type this.

    I have been a Seattle Mariners fan since 1989, when I was 7-years-old. My first game was Little League Day on May 21, 1989. It was in the Kingdome against the Yankees. That day, a rookie by the name of Ken Griffey, Jr. hit an inside the park home run that ricocheted off of Roberto Kelly's face.

    I have been loyal, perhaps to a fault, ever since.

    For the first time ever, I feel like I could latch on to another team. It pains me to say that, but this is real. I love baseball so much and to put myself through this with this **** franchise has gotten to be too much.

    Howard Schultz and Chuck Armstrong are two of the biggest inept pieces of **** in baseball. They are not baseball men, but rather corporate lap dogs who care nothing about putting a winning product on the field. It has become so bad that free agents laugh when the Mariners come knocking. We have a beautiful ballpark and one of the best pitchers of my generation, but it's wasted.

    The fact that these two clowns still have a job is evidence enough that this organization does not care about putting a winning team on the field. We have four playoff appearances in 36 seasons. We haven't seen the postseason since 2001. Our current team is hot garbage, in the midst of a "rebuild" that isn't working. Our former top "prospects" are amounting to nothing in the big leagues. Dustin Ackley, Jesus Montero and Justin Smoak are not figuring it out. Our young prospects on the farm might have potential, but it's all unrealized.

    This is an organization that raises the price on season ticket holders and does not deem it important enough to tell them. They find out from somewhere else and then the Mariners issue a weak *** apology -- but keep the raised prices right where they are, while still putting an atrocious product on the field.

    Now, the Mariners are dead set against Seattle getting another NBA team. They don't care that many Seattle residents badly want another team and for the NBA to return, but in their tiny little brains, they are freaked out that it will affect their bottom line. Talk about arrogance - you put a **** product on the field for most of your existence, and you're going to not be supportive, if not outright combative on Seattle getting the Sonics back?

    The Mariners are getting good at one thing -- shattering previous single game attendance lows records. The people of Seattle, and our state, are wising up to what's really going on with this organization.

    I am tired of being tired of baseball in May. I try with all my damned might to keep interest, but these aren't lovable losers here -- this is an organization that has crapped on their fans and their city. It's not the players I dislike; it's the tool bags in the front office who are terrible at their jobs yet still collect their millions. I haven't been to Safeco Field since 2010 and I'm not going back anytime soon, which is a shame, because I have two little boys that I would love to take to a big league ballgame in a couple of years.

    For that to happen, two things need to happen:

    New Ownership
    Chuck Armstrong and Howard Lincoln fired


    And, on a lesser scale of importance, our GM and Manager need to be held accountable at some point, because what they're putting on the field stinks. There are some decent pieces there, but it's not enough.

    I would love to see actual baseball people in the forefront... People that actual care about producing a winning ball club.

    So, with all of that said, I am seriously considering finding a new team. After 23 years, enough is enough. Things need to change, so in the mean time, I need a new team. I have my reasons, so I hope people think I'm not jumping off the bandwagon -- I'm jumping off, or swimming out of a sunken ship.

    Contenders:

    Braves
    Nationals
    Royals
    Cardinals
    Twins (Ryan Doumit is a childhood friend)

    No Way:
    AL West teams
    NL West teams
    Yankees

    Make your case for your team...
    Last edited by 12; 05-11-2013, 12:34 PM.
  • TripleCrown9
    Keep the Faith
    • May 2010
    • 23704

    #2
    Re: Getting closer to fan free agency - help me pick a new team!

    Why not Boston?

    Also, not St. Louis. They're the NL Yankees.
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    • Watson
      Burrow Club
      • Jul 2008
      • 27013

      #3
      Re: Getting closer to fan free agency - help me pick a new team!

      I wouldn't spring for a team on the East coast. That's a considerable time difference. Go to the Twins or Royals.
      And may thy spirit live in us, Forever LSU

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      • cardinal511
        Rookie
        • Apr 2012
        • 205

        #4
        Re: Getting closer to fan free agency - help me pick a new team!

        Originally posted by TripleCrown9
        Why not Boston?

        Also, not St. Louis. They're the NL Yankees.
        This made me laugh. Just because the Cardinals win does not mean they are the Yankees of the NL. They build from within and occasionally get a big free agent, but also let big names go (see Albert Pujols). They also have the best farm system in baseball, with plenty of potential star power for years to come. I know I am a homer, but I think we have one of the bests organizations in baseball.

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        • 12
          Banned
          • Feb 2010
          • 4458

          #5
          Re: Getting closer to fan free agency - help me pick a new team!

          I'm leaning Braves...

          My family is from the Chattanooga area. I went down there every summer as a kid. I went to Atlanta Fulton County Stadium and watched Jason Schmidt beat John Burkett and the Marlins.

          The Braves were easily my second favorite team as a kid.

          Hmm... They might be tough to beat.

          So tell me guys, am I wrong for thinking this way?

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          • Blzer
            Resident film pundit
            • Mar 2004
            • 42524

            #6
            Re: Getting closer to fan free agency - help me pick a new team!

            Atlanta Braves

            My case will not hold as strongly as it used to, but I clung onto them after watching them throughout the years on TBS. Greg Maddux became my favorite all-time pitcher, and they wouldn't ever be concerned about "rebuilding" their team in any year. They have a lot of homegrown talent and like to keep their star players, and no one player ever seems to be above the rest. The Braves also used to always display offensive showcases. I remember the one year when they had Gary Sheffield was also the year that Vinny Castilla, Javy Lopez and Marcus Giles just decided to go off, complemented by the Jones Bros., Furcal at the lead-off spot, and a 44 year old Julio Franco who was just a joy to watch (and shoot, Bobby Cox was a great manager to watch as well). Any Sunday morning, I knew I could flip on the toob at 10:00 AM and have some fun watching the Braves potentially dominate any inning, much less any game.

            Anyway, they just always have players that will excite you. On today's team, those players are Jason Heyward, Freddie Freeman, Andrelton Simmons, Justin Upton, Craig Kimbrel, Tim Hudson, Ramiro Peña, and a hot Dan Uggla. They will always give you a > .500 winning percentage year in and year out, being in contention in September against the otherly-studly Nationals ball club. Their stadium fan base should be better, but those who are there buy into the whole package, and Turner Field is a very solid ballpark (probably favors the pitcher a bit more, but it's a generic stadium that doesn't bore you). There are also many OS'ers that are Braves fans, not necessarily from Atlanta. They're knowledgeable about the minor league system, and like I said... the Braves organization utilizes those guys often, so you'll get to grow up and see a future with their star draft picks. I also feel they'll lock in Fredi Gonzalez as their manager for a while, which is good to know that you have a team where the entire group respects one another.

            As I kind of hinted at earlier, they are the team that you don't have to worry about blowing the ninth inning or automatically feeling defeated when down in the ninth inning (or any inning, for that matter). That doesn't mean these things don't happen, but you have confidence in the players' skill-sets to not feel pessimistic about this team as you could the Mariners. My entire family jokes with me during this four-game series against the Giants that I secretly want the Braves to win. All I say is that anything is a win-win for me, but I normally will root for the team that needs it the most. Right now, I feel like the Giants will need it more for their schedule ahead and the division they're in, but I'll never be saddened by a Braves win as they're my #2 all the way, and at times my #1.

            Their announcers are the only thing that you might have to adjust to. Personally, even though they're not my favorite and aren't a technical 'best' by any means, I have a preference to them and they've always been "Braves" to me. When Chip gets loud on a home run, I feel the home run would not be the same if I didn't hear him, if that makes sense. Simpson never truly says anything stupid either, and knows his history pretty well (probably better than the current game). In all, I don't complain about them like others might, even though I wouldn't rank them atop my lists of best announcers.

            Don't know if this is an applicable sell-job, but boy do I love my Bravos. Like I said, you know you're with Heyward, Freeman, and Kimbrel for the long haul. Might as well invest in one of their jerseys now (which also often don't change, I might add) and tune into their games on MLB.TV a little more often to see what you could be getting into as far as a lifetime investment goes.
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            • Watson
              Burrow Club
              • Jul 2008
              • 27013

              #7
              Re: Getting closer to fan free agency - help me pick a new team!

              I feel like OS has more Braves fans that live outside of Georgia, let alone Atlanta than those that actually do. The TBS effect is real
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              @AdamdotH

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              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42524

                #8
                Re: Getting closer to fan free agency - help me pick a new team!

                Originally posted by Watson
                I feel like OS has more Braves fans that live outside of Georgia, let alone Atlanta than those that actually do. The TBS effect is real
                And what's funny is that there's a station like WGN that still shows Cubs and White Sox games all of the time, but there just isn't anything that's attracting me to those Chicago teams. Overall fan devotion? Dwindling. Homegrown talent? Eh eh. Stadiums? Classy, but I'll pass. Dominance within their divisions? That's funny. Pinstripes? Never a fan. Announcers? You gotta be bleepin' me.

                What Ted Turner did with the Braves in the 90s and 2000s shouldn't ever be forgotten, and I don't think this organization has anything to worry about for the next 20 years as far as anything I previously mentioned is concerned.
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                • Blzer
                  Resident film pundit
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 42524

                  #9
                  Re: Getting closer to fan free agency - help me pick a new team!

                  Originally posted by Watson
                  I wouldn't spring for a team on the East coast. That's a considerable time difference. Go to the Twins or Royals.
                  Funny you say that about the time difference. For me, it makes all the difference. I used to brag about how Saturdays I could watch four games in one day and often never have any overlap or struggles, because I could see the Red Sox somewhere in the morning at 10:00, the A's or some other Saturday team/game at 1:00, the Braves at their 4:00-ish time slot, and the Giants or some other west coast team at 7:00 at night.

                  Which reminds me, the Braves get in a lot of night games, and this tends to be a good thing for me. Although I love their Sunday morning affairs, their home games on Saturdays are often played at night, so I can get them at 4:00. That definitely is a perfect time if I have the Giants before them at 1:00 or after them at 7:00. I think that's another good sell-job for me and Atlanta.

                  Now, if you're on the east coast trying to watch west coast sports teams, I can see where you might have an issue. Otherwise, it's all primetime to me baby.

                  I'd also argue that everything I've stated in their defense (outside of announcing) makes them a great team to play franchises with on video games.
                  Last edited by Blzer; 05-11-2013, 11:07 AM.
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                  • 12
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 4458

                    #10
                    Re: Getting closer to fan free agency - help me pick a new team!

                    ***Not looking anything up, I swear***

                    Here's what I remember. Again, as a kid, I loved the Braves. They were a very close second to the M's.

                    C - Javy Lopez
                    1B - Sid Bream, Fred McGriff
                    2B - Mark Lemke
                    SS - Jeff Blauser
                    3B - Terry Pendleton, Chipper Jones (can't remember when he moved off SS)
                    LF - Dwight Smith(?), Ron Gant
                    CF - Otis Nixon, Marquis Grissom
                    RF - Dave Justice

                    SP - Greg Maddux
                    SP - Tom Glavine
                    SP - John Smoltz
                    SP - Steve Avery
                    SP - Charlie Liebrandt, Kent Mercker (threw a no-hitter IIRC), Jason Schmidt

                    Relievers (this will be a lot tougher)

                    CP - Alejandro Pena, Mark Wohlers
                    RP - Mike Stanton

                    That's off of memory... Those are the Braves teams I watched and loved.

                    This is starting to feel like more of an easy choice...

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                    • bkrich83
                      Has Been
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71582

                      #11
                      Re: Getting closer to fan free agency - help me pick a new team!

                      I went through a similiar situation a few years ago with the Padres. Lot of the same complaints as you, coupled with a TV deal that made it impossible to watch them on TV, despite the fact I live in San Diego. (They had signed a cable only exclusive deal at the time).
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                      • 55
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 20857

                        #12
                        Re: Getting closer to fan free agency - help me pick a new team!

                        But what about when "The Big Three" comes up and leads the M's to the World Series in 2014?

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                        • Chrisksaint
                          $$$
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 19127

                          #13
                          Re: Getting closer to fan free agency - help me pick a new team!

                          I feel your pain.
                          Saints, LSU, Seminoles, Pelicans, Marlins, Lightning

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                          • 12
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 4458

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 55
                            But what about when "The Big Three" comes up and leads the M's to the World Series in 2014?
                            Troll, troll, troll your boat, gently out of this thread...

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                            • Coug00
                              LOB
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 3476

                              #15
                              Re: Getting closer to fan free agency - help me pick a new team!

                              The good news is Chuck & Howie are old as dirt and have to retire (or expire) soon. Those two *******s should have been chased out of town with pitchforks long ago.

                              Thankfully, the M's are going to have some major ownership and executive turnover in the next 3-4 years.
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