8/19 - 8/25 Game Discussion Thread

[DamnYanks2]

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If you add Pete Rose's minor league hits, he has 4,683 of them in all.

Dude, this weekend is gonna be intense, and we gotta go to Cowbell Tropicana field lol

[DrJones]

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Why exactly do they count Ichiros pre MLB career as part of his stats,but never for anyone else? 4000 in his pro career, but not even 3000 as part of the MLB? Do stats outside of MLB really matter in baseball?

Officially, Ichiro's hits in NPB don't count, of course. But he's now only the 6th player with 4000 professional hits (MLB, minors, and Japan), so that's worth acknowledging. Given how he started racking up 200-hit seasons as soon as he arrived in Seattle, does anyone really think Ichiro wouldn't have been able to hit major league pitching in his early-mid 20s?

Interesting thing to note is that by coming overseas, Ichiro almost certainly sacrificed being the all-time hits leader in Japan (only one NPB batter finished his career with over 3000 hits).

[RoundingThird]

Re: 8/19 - 8/25 Game Discussion Thread

Dude, this weekend is gonna be intense, and we gotta go to Cowbell Tropicana field lol

Red Sox Nation needs you to sweep!

[Watson]

Re: 8/19 - 8/25 Game Discussion Thread

And now Brandon Beachy is going to see Andrews on Monday.


Holy ****, I don't believe this. Un****ing real. If he's done for the year we are ****ed.

[Chip Douglass]

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Another Kershaw outing, another 8 shutout innings.

At this rate, he'll not only walk away with the NL CY Young, but win NL MVP.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Was nice to see Carlos Villanueva drop the 57-mph eephus on the Nats last night! Tied his own mark for slowest pitch all season.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 8/19 - 8/25 Game Discussion Thread

Officially, Ichiro's hits in NPB don't count, of course. But he's now only the 6th player with 4000 professional hits (MLB, minors, and Japan), so that's worth acknowledging. Given how he started racking up 200-hit seasons as soon as he arrived in Seattle, does anyone really think Ichiro wouldn't have been able to hit major league pitching in his early-mid 20s?

Interesting thing to note is that by coming overseas, Ichiro almost certainly sacrificed being the all-time hits leader in Japan (only one NPB batter finished his career with over 3000 hits).

I agree that 4000 combined is a pretty huge accomplishment despite them not all coming in the bigs--especially with almost 3000 coming in MLB. I mean, if we extrapolate his hit rate backwards to substitute for his NPB days (even if we are conservative in our estimates), he'd still be at least in the high 3000s if not at 4000 anyway. He mauled MLB pitching for a decade (and even set the MLB hits record for a single season for cryin' out loud), so it's not like his numbers are only from beating up on 2nd tier pitching. Ichiro is a living legend, and some may feel too nationalistic to acknowledge that, but there ain't no denying that fact.

[PhilliesFan13]

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Wilin Rosario: 2013 Phillie killer of the year. My God.

[RoundingThird]

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Another Kershaw outing, another 8 shutout innings.

At this rate, he'll not only walk away with the NL CY Young, but win NL MVP.

How lucky are the Red Sox not to face Kershaw or Greinke? Thank the heavens!

Ryu seems pretty intimidating though.

[SPTO]

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I agree that 4000 combined is a pretty huge accomplishment despite them not all coming in the bigs--especially with almost 3000 coming in MLB. I mean, if we extrapolate his hit rate backwards to substitute for his NPB days (even if we are conservative in our estimates), he'd still be at least in the high 3000s if not at 4000 anyway. He mauled MLB pitching for a decade (and even set the MLB hits record for a single season for cryin' out loud), so it's not like his numbers are only from beating up on 2nd tier pitching. Ichiro is a living legend, and some may feel too nationalistic to acknowledge that, but there ain't no denying that fact.

I don't know if you guys listen to CBS sports radio's overnight show but Damon Amendolara had a complete FREAK OUT over his callers and others poo pooing Ichiro.

It was pretty comical.

BTW agreed with everything you and DrJones said.

[Jgainsey]

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Never thought I'd say this, but, John Smoltz, shut the **** up.

All year on MLB Network he has been going on and on about how how the Braves strike out too much and rely too much on the HR. Every chance he gets he brings this up... like it's going to be their downfall, or like some how they are magically winning in spite of this glaring flaw.

Well now they have the best record in baseball and really haven't had trouble scoring runs. 2nd most in the NL I believe. I hate to break it to you Smoltzie, but apparently, you can have a successful offense and plenty of strikeouts. Production is production, it doesn't matter how you come across it.

[SPTO]

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Never thought I'd say this, but, John Smoltz, shut the **** up.

All year on MLB Network he has been going on and on about how how the Braves strike out too much and rely too much on the HR. Every chance he gets he brings this up... like it's going to be their downfall, or like some how they are magically winning in spite of this glaring flaw.

Those types of teams tend to fall flat on their faces in the playoffs when they're facing better consistent pitching. I agree that railing about it ALL SEASON LONG is a bit much. He should save that criticism for the postseason if that's what he believes rather than minimizing his critique by overdoing it.

[G3no_11]

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Ichiro is not a legend. Why do I say that?.. Because I'm American!

[Sportsforever]

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Never thought I'd say this, but, John Smoltz, shut the **** up.

All year on MLB Network he has been going on and on about how how the Braves strike out too much and rely too much on the HR. Every chance he gets he brings this up... like it's going to be their downfall, or like some how they are magically winning in spite of this glaring flaw.

Well now they have the best record in baseball and really haven't had trouble scoring runs. 2nd most in the NL I believe. I hate to break it to you Smoltzie, but apparently, you can have a successful offense and plenty of strikeouts. Production is production, it doesn't matter how you come across it.

Well, to be fair the Braves haven't struck out at the rate they started the first 1/3 of the season at. If the Braves don't win it will more likely be because of all the injuries (Hudson, Heyward, Beachy) than because they strike out.

[PhilliesFan13]

Re: 8/19 - 8/25 Game Discussion Thread

Phillies walk-off on the Rockies for the second night in a row! Domonic Brown with the game winning RBI single. Really awesome to see the new energy this team is playing with since Ryne Sandberg took over as manager.