2013-14 Hot Stove League Thread

[TheMatrix31]

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It is with great regret that I sticky this thread.

[AC]

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Sounds like Atlanta won't make much of an effort signing him. Likely destinations are Texas, Boston, the Yankees, Cubs, and Angels. Blue Jays and White Sox are darkhorses.

The Angels aren't signing McCann.

[PhilliesFan13]

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Indians released Chris Perez and resigned Jason Giambi to a minor league deal with an invite to Spring Training.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/10/indians-release-chris-perez.html

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/10/indians-re-sign-jason-giambi-acquire-colt-hynes.html

[AC]

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Jays are in on Gordon Beckham and things sound like they're getting stupid.

One player whose name has already entered the conversation is Chicago White Sox second baseman Gordon Beckham. According to Scott Merkin of MLB.com, the Blue Jays explored a possible trade for Beckham last off-season and are still interested in making a deal.

The arbitration eligible Beckham won't be a free agent until 2016, which means that in order to acquire him, Toronto might have to give up a couple of prospects such as pitchers Aaron Sanchez, Marcus Stroman, John Stilson and Roberto Osuna, and/or catcher AJ Jimenez, in order to seal the deal. However, the White Sox would probably have to feel confident that Marcus Semien, who hit .261 in 69 September at-bats with the team, would be ready to step in at the position going forward in order to pull the trigger.

This would literally be stupidest thing Anthopoulos has ever done which is really, really saying something.

[SPTO]

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I can see giving up one of those prospects but two? Anthopoulos would have to be insane to do that.

Also on the Jays front, they wisely picked up the option on Casey Janssen's contract.

[CameRoN0407]

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Jays are in on Gordon Beckham and things sound like they're getting stupid.



This would literally be stupidest thing Anthopoulos has ever done which is really, really saying something.

I think that would be the stupidest trade in MLB.

[AC]

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I can see giving up one of those prospects but two? Anthopoulos would have to be insane to do that.

You can see giving up one of Aaron Sanchez, Roberto Osuna, Marcus Stroman, John Stilson or AJ Jimenez for Gordon Beckham?

I would say that one of those first three guys for Beckham would be a fire-able offense and one of the last two would be a poor/mediocre trade. I absolutely can't "see" it.

[snepp]

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There has to be a ~1 WAR second baseman out there somewhere that can be had for nothing but cash. It would be lunacy to give up anything of meaningful value for Backham.

[AC]

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There has to be a ~1 WAR second baseman out there somewhere that can be had for nothing but cash. It would be lunacy to give up anything of meaningful value for Backham.

Absolutely. Kelly Johnson, Brian Roberts, Mark Ellis and Nick Punto can all be reasonably projected to have more value than Beckham and will cost nothing but marginal amounts of moolah (marginal moolah, I like that :3 ). I'm still riding the Kolten Wong bandwagon, but if we don't want to make a major acquisition there any of those guys except maybe Punto are likely better than Beckham for less.

Our front office is really broken.

[Bard]

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Absolutely. Kelly Johnson, Brian Roberts, Mark Ellis and Nick Punto can all be reasonably projected to have more value than Beckham and will cost nothing but marginal amounts of moolah (marginal moolah, I like that :3 ). I'm still riding the Kolten Wong bandwagon, but if we don't want to make a major acquisition there any of those guys except maybe Punto are likely better than Beckham for less.

Our front office is really broken.

Fun to dream, more like Kozma from the Cardinals

Ellis had a pretty decent season over in LA, whoever is in need of a second baseman should probably look into him on the 1 year 3 million type of deal.

[AC]

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Fun to dream, more like Kozma from the Cardinals

Ellis had a pretty decent season over in LA, whoever is in need of a second baseman should probably look into him on the 1 year 3 million type of deal.

I would readily give Ellis a 2/13 deal. He would be very nice.

[IlliniM1ke]

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Fun to dream, more like Kozma from the Cardinals

Yup Wong is the future at 2B for the Cards, Carpenter will shift to 3B most likely and I think Freese's time is up.

Kozma can probably be had (I'm sure teams will be beating down the door for him) since hopefully we'll upgrade at SS and keep Descalso as our utility guy.

[SPTO]

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You can see giving up one of Aaron Sanchez, Roberto Osuna, Marcus Stroman, John Stilson or AJ Jimenez for Gordon Beckham?

I would say that one of those first three guys for Beckham would be a fire-able offense and one of the last two would be a poor/mediocre trade. I absolutely can't "see" it.

Let me be clear and I should've said it. I'm working on the assumption that the Jays can open up the deal to get a Danks or someone else from their rotation as well. As the proposal is currently structured I wouldn't do it even if a gun were aimed at my head.

[rdnk]

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On a good team, Beckham isn't worth more than a utility guy. If they want a starting 2B, they should trade for Brandon Philips.

[AC]

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Let me be clear and I should've said it. I'm working on the assumption that the Jays can open up the deal to get a Danks or someone else from their rotation as well.

And let me be clear that Sanchez/whatever for Beckham + Danks has the potential to be even worse.